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Republicans back payroll tax cut extension


By TomG NY - Posted on 30 November 2011

"Republicans back payroll tax cut extension"

http://news.yahoo.com/republicans-back-payroll-tax-cut-extension-013954952.html

Well, now. Stand up to a bully and he backs down.  McConnell caves to the distinctly non-bipartisan President Obama. Well done, if tardily done, Mr. President!!!  (Sigh, this means I have to send the Obama campaign another donation. Between the President's newly found backbone and the recall Gov Walker effort in Wisconsin, I am not going to have any money for Xmas shopping... Ho Ho Ho!)

Good. And they'll work on extending unemployment insurance payments. 

Still wish they'd couple this with a plan to pay for it.

 'Depends upon HOW they plan to pay for it and whose ox gets gord/gorded in the process (word form?) but in general I agree.

Gored.  lol

 Yeah, I knew I blew that one (or is it bleu?) but I was in too much of a hurry to do the Google. Thanks for the correction, Suzi, Bad grade on THAT paper!!! 

Nope.....You still get an A....just an A-.    Is something wrong with me because I knew that?  Ewwwww  

If the GOP has a choice of paying for it with a small tax on the rich or not paying for it all, they will pick the later which proves they don't really care about the deficit. I'm glad they "cried Uncle" but I'm surprised they did not vow support only if Bush tax cuts are extended permanently or only if they buy into the Ryan plan on Medicare. The new way to negotiate seems to involve hostage taking so did we really, truly just see a Republican "cave?" Hopefully the first of many! Pinch me-I'm dreaming. Democrats must be getting Tom's message that it's ok to reverse the roles once in awhile. Feels good to be the aggressor and on offense sometimes, doesn't it?

I'm now hearing that part of the GOP proposal to pay for the cuts may be to freeze the pay of government workers, and lay off up to 200,000 government workers. Again, putting the burden on the middle class.   Why do tax cuts for corporations and the wealthy need no off-sets in the minds of Republicans, but for the rest of us, it's a different story? 

I'm hearing some Republican push back now, too.  Obama already froze the pay of government workers as part of his cave-in last year to McConnell.   I hope the Democrats will push back at least to some degree.  I am not expecting a total victory for reason here; I am glad thatthe Republicans are at least scrambling for new positions and, to some degree, softening if not abandoning their no taxes on any of the wealthy ("job creators" my a%%) ever.

PS Still fuming at Obama for digging this hole for himself and everybody else with his bipartisan fantasies and ridiculous capitulation but going forward it's him, Gingrich, or Romney, so....  Hillary, forgive me. I was wrong!!  (Dammm, I figuered in 2008 I was too old to mess up yet ANOTHER relationship with a woman, but apparently not, LOL).

I still think his attempts at what I'll call "soft" bipartisanship were not a lost cause. Anecdotally, I've heard from a good number of independents who have picked up on the Republican party's unreasonableness-- which has hurt them-- and think that Obama has tried to cooperate. As a result, I think his recent hard line becomes a lot more understandable to voters. It's not like he's being a jerk, it's just that he has to do whatever is necessary to get something done.

 Senate Republicans blocked the payroll tax extension. Back to square one in some respects but, assuming (and hoping) that Obama keeps pushing for this and related policies, we are still ahead of where we were when he was battling from the fetal position.

Oddly, they blocked both the Democratic Plan AND the Republican Plan. I guess those Republicans just really want to increase taxes for the middle class.

Izzy - The cynical side of me keeps thinking that somehow, the Republicans will successfully convince their followers that Obama was the reason for the tax increase on the middle class.

I think they know the blame will fall on Republicans no matter how much they blame President Obama. And they can't pretend they just care about the deficit since they want to extend the Bush tax cuts without paying for them. I get the sense they realize this is a losing battle for them. I predict they will pass an extension but perhaps not an expansion, as President Obama wants. I'm sure they wanted to bribe the Democrats by promising a yes vote if healthcare reform is repealed, Planned Parenthood is de-funded, etc. But those games are over. Perhaps Democrats finally learned a lesson? "Princess Pelosi" pretty much laid it out for Republicans and they won't win this one. Leave it to Pelosi to provide the "spine" for Democrats. http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/12/pelosi-puts-the-kibosh-on-gop-payroll-tax-cut-strategy.php?ref=fpa

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