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Who has the best shot against Obama in 2012?

By admin - Posted on 21 February 2011

The first “serious” GOP contender for the presidency is Herman Cain, was at the Koch meeting in 1/2011. Cain, a talk show host and former CEO of Godfather’s Pizza, has been a frequent guest at events sponsored by Koch front groups like Americans for Prosperity.

Herman Cain: 'I Can Beat' President Obama

January 13, 2011

interview at 4:20


Bring it on!

One of the comments in the think progress link made a good point about the obsession of the right with George Soros while they all ignore the Koch brothers. 


Well, one thing is for sure. It won't be Allen West....

2/21/2011: "Mike Huckabee tells the Washington Post that President Obama "is going to be much tougher to beat than people in our party think."

"He's going to have a clear ride through to the Democratic nomination, because no one is going to oppose him or challenge him. He's going to start out with a billion dollars, no opponent, so he can save his money to the last four months. He's got a huge social network and he has the power of the incumbency. People underestimate how sweet it is flying on Air Force One with all the trappings of the presidency."

Meanwhile, Huckabee says the Republicans "could in fact end up with a demolition derby. Whoever emerges will come out bloody, bruised and broke."

I'm having a hard time believing that all these Republicans we're hearing whispers about will actually put themselves in the ring to face Obama. Maybe they've been happy to keep their names in, in case the economy tanked or some other crisis made Obama look beatable. When push comes to shove, I won't be surprised if just 4-6 of these characters are in it at the beginning of primary season.

Thune takes himself out of the running:

Smart move on Thune's part. I'd expect him to turn down any offer to be someone's VP pick, too. He has his eyes squarely on 2016.


I just came here to post that John...;-)  Another one bites the dust.
Great minds...
Rubio is still my big worry.

Another one out there making a lot of noise recently is Donald Trump.  Talk about a sell out to corporate America!! 


did you see this at TPM today?

And yes, eccentric real estate tycoon and reality TV host Donald Trump also trailed Obama by just two points, 43% to 41%. That's well within the poll's 3.5% margin of error.


I think its way too early to start obsessing on 2012.  Let's get through the union busting efforts first.



Donald Trump???  Have people lost their minds???
Yes, I think so.

I didn't see that, but I've seen The Donald on several shows saying he is considering a run. 

We don't need to obsess about 2012, but we do need to multitask.  You can be darn sure the Tea Party is laying their plans.

I would not take The Donald seriously on this... he is so completely full of himself (and other stuff to boot); he's all talk and he's doing this to stroke his own ego. 


Got that right Kim.

Wall Street and Free Traders will be after him like they finished Perot.

Someone else who wants to run but is having some google troubles. ((This is pretty dirty))

Then another good reminder of Reagan  the man, not the right-wing God.

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Reagan took no prisoners...

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Maddow is on Leno tonight and she was joking about how she'd be an Eisenhower Republican because of where the party platform was and how far it's shifted. It was in response to Leno asking her about who she thought was the best president.  

She also talked about the Union situation. I'll post it tomorrow you want. 

Please post it.  I consider myself an Eisenhower Republican, which by today's standards makes me a real lefty. ;-D


Suzi, Rachel went into greater detail about Eisenhower in a fantastic segment of her show right after the SOTU in January.  I previously posted the link on a topic Kelly posted about 7 reasons why Obama looks to be in good shape in 2012.  I think you'll find that it shows the logic of your political position now, and why you don't find yourself supporting current Republicans. 

A Gallup poll released today has it down to three main contenders-- Romney, Huckabee and Palin:

If Palin and Huckabee are in the top 3, then your former party is more doomed than I thought. Sorry, John. 

It's sad. The only glimmer of hope is that as we get closer to election day, voters will learn about some of the other, slightly better, candidates.

I actually think Christie would match up very well against Obama. If it's one of these retreads, Obama will win 40+ states.

New Jersey Poll found 52 percent of registered voters approve of Christie. President Obama’s approval rating jumped to 55 percent.
I still don't see any reasonable challengers.

What tea partiers are saying...

Romney sent loads of money to tea party-backed candidates in 2010, but he is weighted down by a state law he helped engineer that expanded health coverage to the uninsured. To the tea partiers he's "Mandate Mitt"... that alone will sink him.

  Romney is dead on arrival

In a moment that will no doubt resurface again during the 2012 GOP primary, President Obama praised the health care plan Mitt Romney passed while serving as governor of Massachusetts.

"I know that many of you have asked for flexibility for your states under this law. In fact, I agree with Mitt Romney, who recently said he's proud of what he accomplished on health care in Massachusetts and supports giving states the power to determine their own health care solutions," Obama said in an address to the National Governors Association today. "He's right. Alabama is not going to have exactly the same needs as Massachusetts or California or North Dakota. We believe in that flexibility."

~~Oh, snap! he can run but can't hide. That's going to make Mittens furious...

This is great stuff. In so many ways, Mitt pairs off against Obama really well. If he gets the nomination, this is 90% of the Obama strategy. 

On a side note, I wonder how many voters, Evangelicals especially, will come to regard Obama as the better Christian, considering what many people out there think of Mormons. 

It would take a political coup of the century for Mitt to win Evangelicals over.

Mitt Romney, the GOP frontrunner and the guy who actually polls closely with Obama, actually said this.

Barack Obama is facing a financial emergency on a grander scale. Yet his approach has been to engage in one of the biggest peacetime spending binges in American history.

In addition to voting to provide healthcare to citizens in his state (a no-no in the GOP world!) he now might be doubted on an intellectual scale. Does he not know we are at war? Is he that out of touch? Wow-Obama must be feeling pretty confident. 

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Mark and Domenico discuss which potential presidential candidates are the most likely to jump into the race, and who may stay on the sidelines.

Georgia lawmaker Newt Gingrich will enter the 2012 presidential race within the next two weeks, sources say.

Why is Newt running? ... In a nut shell, Pursuit of Power:

"I've known Newt now for thirty years almost," says former congressman Mickey Edwards. "But I wouldn't be able to describe what his real principles are. I never felt that he had any sort of a real compass about what he believed except for the pursuit of power."

This is by far my favorite Gingrich clip:


Gingrich got on the wrong side of the whole climate change thing back in 2008. Here's hoping enough right wingers hit him with stuff like this, just as they'll hit Romney for creating Obamacare. 


Newt blames his affairs/troubled marriages on his love of country-bring too busy and passionate about his patriotic work? Is this guy for real? He cheated on and left not one but two wives during the height of their illnesses. Love the comments-"I guess God forgives Republicans but not Democrats..."

Asked about the qualities of a great president, Newt gave his assessment saying, "You want to be able to look into them and understand, do they share my values?" - an echo of past criticisms leveled against President Obama. Gingrich also said the president would need to be "ideally, a unifier of the nation," echoing former president George W. Bush's vow in 2000 that he would be a "uniter not a divider."

Gingrich also weighed in on the threat that "secular, atheist, elitism" and "radical Islamists" posed to "Judeo-Christian civilization:"

Newt Gingrich: "In a sense, our Judeo-Christian civilization is under attack from two fronts. On one front, you have a secular, atheist, elitism. And on the other front, you have radical Islamists. And both groups would like to eliminate our civilization if they could. For different reasons, but with equal passion."


I'm a "secular atheist" and I can tell you that Gingrich isn't getting MY vote any time soon.

I'm too busy trying to eliminate his (so-called) civilization. 

Those TPM comments are amazing and hilarious.


I was also checking comments in a Politico article on Newt and this comment stuck out to me big time. It's interesting...

As a Republican and a believing Christian and well, just as an American who loves my country, the idea that this creepy, almost breathtakingly arrogant guy is a legitimate candidate for the Presidency, and for my party's nomination is simply depressing.

It's like when Rush goes off on some moral issue and I think to myself: What? You're on your fourth marriage and live like the Sultan of Brunei - and you're actually giving out moral judgments?  You are the voice of conservatism?  Really? 

I disagree with nearly every single policy President Obama has put forth. I don't trust his agenda and I think he is anti-military. But I don't doubt he loves his family and frankly by all indications has greater moral character than either of the grand voices of the conservative values set.

I hope and pray I have a conservative candidate I can vote for that will allow me to vote against Obama in good conscience. It ain't Newt and it sure ain't Palin.


Watch out, man, it's that family thing which is a gateway to starting to think more critically about his anti-military, anti-American agenda!

Stay strong, brother! Stay strong! Resist the urge to think for yourself! 

Hi guys! I'm back from my vacation-missed you all! We went on our first family cruise to the Bahamas and it was fabulous!

I'd say the biggest threats would be Chris Christy or Marco Rubio. They've been avoiding the tea party hugs (did not go to CPAC, Rubio refused to join tea party caucous) and try to sound reasonable. Christy even defended Michelle Obama's fitness push, saying it was a great cause. "Morning Joe" basically writes commercials for Christy everyday, begging him to run and slobbering all over him, which is annoying. I think both would do pretty well in the general election because of their rejection of the tea party, but not sure they could get through the primaries for the same reason. That's the trouble with the GOP list above. If they kiss up to the tea party, they can get the nomination but will be a disaster in the general. The opposite is true if they reject the tea party. You can't win. I think-if smart-Rubio and Christy will wait out this election and get more experience, hoping the tea party influence fades a bit.

Welcome back Kelly. I bet you had a beautiful time.

Former GOP Sen. Bob Bennett (UT), who lost his seat to a far-right primary challenger after holding it for over a decade, slammed the tea party in an interview with Fox News host Greta Van Susteren Friday. Saying the tea party movement “cost the Republicans control of the Senate,” Bennett warned Republicans to “be careful” about kowtowing to the narrow demands of the hard right when nominating a presidential candidate. Bennett went on to note that the GOP has shifted far to the right from previous Republican presidential candidates like Ronald Reagan and George H.W. Bush. “Ronald Reagan would probably not recognize the description of Ronald Regan” that many conservatives have of him, Bennett said, noting that he held views that were “absolute anathema to many of the tea party people”:

~~If Reagan were alive today, he might very well have to say," I didn't leave the GOP, the GOP left me."

Obama doing well in key states...

So far PPP done 2012 Presidential polls in 6 of the 9 states that George W. Bush won in 2004 but that Obama won in 2008. Obama leads 23 out of 24 hypothetical match ups that we've tested in those the full post here.

Former Pennsylvania Senator Rick Santorum, along with former U.S. House Speaker Newt Gingrich, were suspended today from their jobs as Fox News contributors because it appears both are ramping up campaigns for president.

~~OK, let's get this puppy going.

Santorum is delusional if he thinks he has a chance. The Internet meme of his name has overpowered everything about him. He'd be a laughing stock in a primary or general. He's going to waste a lot of money and time. But that's what a professional political candidate is good at. 

... and send his family through hell. I feel sorry for them.

I was just thinking... How about Huckabee? I guess he's not running. He did say, "Well, the money is pretty good for me to give it up, but I would have to you know suspend my Fox affiliation to do so".

He's probably a no go!

Huckabee has no shot in the general. I use to like him and think he had a shot but he's moved too far to the right after '08. 


Mitch Daniels admits his height might be a problem in 2012

Hey, he's the one who brought this up. If he thinks that way he should not run... kind of small minded of him.

Which is mentioned in this almost tailor made (for this thread) clip of Jon discussing the likely candidates and what they're doing.

From Tuesday 

 Daily Show: Indecision 2012 - Indecision Edition - Republican Candidacy Announcements 

By the time Republicans announce their presidential candidacy, the teachers' unions will have Americans under Sharia law panels. 

===================================================== Daily Show: Indecision 2012 - Indecision Edition

Tim Pawlenty lacks pizzazz, Mitch Daniels isn't tall enough, and Mitt Romney must explain why he passed health care reform.

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