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Romney: The failed election in Iran is Obama's fault


By Kelly Thomas - Posted on 14 June 2009

Just wanted to prepare you ahead of time...Romney just showed the hand the GOP will play in the aftermath of the fraud-laced Iranian election. Big surprise-he claims it's Obama's fault for apologizing too much. Here's the link from Huffington Post.

Former Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney said on Sunday that the Obama administration's approach to Iran was "entirely wrong-headed" and made the case that the contested results of that country's elections proved that the president's policy of apologizing for America was "not working."

In an appearance on ABC's "This Week," the failed Republican Presidential candidate and potential 2012 contender called Iran's election results a "fraud," and the results "inaccurate."

Romney began, however, by arguing that Barack Obama's remark that there was a "robust debate" in Iran had proven to be badly off the mark, as witnessed by "brutal repression" of election day protesters. Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's widely contested victory, he added, was another indication that Obama's approach to the Middle East and world at large wasn't working.

But he was a little stumped at one point in the interview:

Reminded by host George Stephanopoulos that losses by Hezbollah in Lebanon just a week earlier were widely attributed as a success for Obama -- as was the mere fact that Iranians were protesting Ahmadinejad's proclaimed victory -- Romney was left a bit more tongue-tied.

"You know, I can't tell you what led to the people running into the streets in Iran," he said. "I hope, in fact, that they're very anxious to see new leadership in that country. But I can tell you the results are what I'm interested in: Is Iran still pursuing nuclear weaponry. And there's no question about at."

 

 

Grasping at straws is what Romney is doing. Instead of trying to figure out how to get the party back on track, let's blame Obama for everything bad that happens in the world. Come on, does he really think most are going to believe that? I know, the neo-cons will. But they are few and far between. He and the others need to figure out how they are going to get regular folks to subcribe to their ideas, I don't see that happening anytime soon. Just my opinion.   

This well-written blog article called it yesterday.

From the article:

With regard to the United States and the West, nothing would prevent them in principle from dealing with an illegitimate authoritarian government. We do it every day, and have done so for years (the Soviet Union comes to mind). But this election is an extraordinary gift to those who have been most skeptical about President Obama’s plan to conduct negotiations with Iran. Former Bush official Elliott Abrams was quick off the mark, commenting that it is “likely that the engagement strategy has been dealt a very heavy blow.” Two senior Israeli officials quickly urged the world not to engage in negotiations with Iran. Neoconservatives who had already expressed their support for an Ahmadinejad victory now have every reason to be satisfied.   Opposition forces, previously on the defensive, now have a perfect opportunity to mount a political attack that will make it even more difficult for President Obama to proceed with his plan.

He wants to be president and he's this uninformed and indenial?

This is un unbelievable statement.  How do you look at these pictures these past few ays and not realize that somethingis in the air in Iran.....These kids took to the streets and started reclaiming their country and that to me is amazing.  Romney needs to shut the hell up. Mark my words Iran will never be the same after yesterday.

If there is no Iran, let me be not: A young woman supporter of Mousavi.

 

 I will not throw the first punch but I wil certainly throw the last.....President Barack Obama.

Romney: Like Kerry, but right-wing and dumber.

That young woman surely channeled John Patrick Henry.

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It's sad that we've reached a point where 'government service' is a dirty word... If we're the greatest country on earth, maybe we can have the greatest government.

Lewis Black

Ladies and Gentlemen,

 

I present to you exhibit A in the case of why Mitt Romney DID NOT get elected president.  Kelly, did you smack your face as you read what he said?  I did.  I thought Mitt was a wee bit better than this but apparently I was wrong.

It's clear that the Iranian election has some shadiness to it, and even if Ahmadinejad retains power- his credibility has taken such a bad hit he might as well step down.  Where this is Obama's fault in any way is BEYOND me.

Mitt Romney needs to stick to two things- economics and hair care.  The rest he sucks at.

I present to you exhibit A in the case of why Mitt Romney DID NOT get elected president.  Kelly, did you smack your face as you read what he said?  I did.  I thought Mitt was a wee bit better than this but apparently I was wrong.

Hey, I thought I was the only one with self-inflicted scars after reading infuriating articles!  Yes, I was abusing myself and yelling at the screen. I find it hard to believe he will be a viable candidate if he is to present himself in this fashion during interviews and on such topics of an international nature. Sure, it will keep the base happy but how will most Americans see him? I guess he would have prefered McCain's "bomb, bomb, bomb Iran" tactics. Now that's a leader I guess!

Suncager and Kelly,

  Even I cringed for my sane Republican friends.  And then,.....I giggled at the prospect of another 4 years for Obama.  Sorry, I could not help my sorry Democrat self. (Snickering and attempting to stifle the giggles over idiots like Romney) 

Note to self; Stop laughing, stop laughing, stop laughing!

THIS sane Republican friend wants a second term for Obama.  So I laugh with you....;-D
Well, even some very conservative Christians have issues with Mormons, so if there is one way to win over neocons it's attacking Obama for any and everything....
You can dress him up, but you can't give a brainless person a clue. When George asked him about the latest Gallup poll where Rush, Newt, and Cheney were seen by as "heads" of the Republican party, I was waiting for him to ask Mitt why he only got 2% of the vote. Mitt is having problems within his own party. Hence, reference to the failed presidential candidate.
Newt went on Fox saying he wasn't a citizen of the world, but a citizen of the United States. Isreal for the first time is stepping up peace talks, and reconizeing Palestine. Iranians are marching in the street for Freedom of each indivitual rights, and fair elections. Mitt can't stand the change Obama is bringing around the world and Newt doesn't want to be part of the world or world change for peace. He doesn't want to be a citizen of the world, only of his own little corner and leader and voice of just the GOP. So, what would Newt do with other countries? Ignore their existance, and tell them he don't want any part of them or their countries? Do they come any worse than this?

Umm, this hasn't been the first time that Israel has been willing to recognize a Palestinian homeland.

They did that sixty years ago. 

"Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn from the experience of others, are also remarkable for their apparent disinclination to do so." -- Douglas Adams

Netanyahu has staked out the Israelis opening positions on negotiations: Palestinians have to recognize the existence of Israel as a Jewish state; city of Jerusalem (including east Jerusalem) will be the capital of Israel; the West Bak and Gaza will be "demilitarized"; and Palestinian "refugees" will not be allowed to return to what is now Israel. I believe these positions will be mostly negotiable, except for the "no right of return for Palestinian refugees to Israel", which is non-negotiable.

If they want to talk, the Palestinians now have to lay out their opening positions, which will likely include Israel withdrawing from settlements in the West Bank; a self-defense force for Palestine; East Jerusalem being the capital of Palestine; and the right of return for Palestinian refugees to what is now Israel.

Let's hope, at least, that it gets that far that the two sides begin to talk in earnest about solving the problems that exist between them.

 

<Let's hope, at least, that it gets that far that the two sides begin to talk in earnest about solving the problems that exist between them.>

Agreed, I just think that Netanyahu hasn't really given up anything at all, just words, just a maintenance of the status quo, no real progress.

Now, I'd like to see some progress on the Palestinian side as well, and I agree that to this point when the Israelis have brought something to the table, have given something up to change the status quo, it has been rejected by the Palestinians.

Either that or Israel has had its prime minister assasinated by extreme factions within their own country.

"Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn from the experience of others, are also remarkable for their apparent disinclination to do so." -- Douglas Adams

Newt went on Fox saying he wasn't a citizen of the world, but a citizen of the United States.

Sorry to inform Newt, but didn't Reagan talk about being a citizen of the world? And isn't Reagan the almighty in the GOP these days?

And why wouldn't McCain want to get into the "We're Republicans and our job is to criticize Obama" trend? Read this from Politico. Heaven help us if McCain won the election!

Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) on Monday called the recent reelection of Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad a “sham” and criticized President Barack Obama’s administration for not voicing strong opposition to the election’s result.

“The reaction of the Iranian people shows their discontent with this regime,” McCain said during an interview on Fox News’ “Fox & Friends.”

“It’s really a sham that they've pulled off and I hope that we will act,” he said.

...McCain chided the administration for not coming out more forcefully against Ahmadinejad’s reelection, voicing disappointment in administration officials who have been quoted in some news reports indicating that “they’re not going to change their policy of dialogue.”

“I think they should be condemned, and it's obvious that this was a rigged election and depriving the people of their democratic rights,” the Arizona senator said. “We are for human rights all over the world.”

 



 

While I personally hope the government of Iran is overthrown and wish it was completely a western style democracy say like Turkey, I think that Obama is probably smart enough to know the odds are against any change from the horrible sham election, and his support for the probable actual winner, would put the US in a worse position in the future.  Remember, basically we're dealing with nuclear terrorists (the threat of having nuclear weapons in the future) and that has to be a major source of decision making.
And doesn't McCain know that? Is he just saying this to go against Pres. Obama or do you think McCain really would have been dumb enough to make a major statement against the election at this early stage and hurt any future relations?
I'm with you Kelly.  After i wrote my post above, I thought, you know if Obama came out with a strong statement in support of Mousavi, isn't that all Ahmadimbad wants?  Then he could loudly proclaim that all the trouble is actually the CIA trying to overthrough the Iranian political system.  it's not true, but that's what Ahmadimbad wants.
President Obama is very wise in his dealings with foreign governments. He is not into the knee-jerk "I'll speak my mind without thinking" politics. Let's try to tell that to "We are all Georgians" McCain!
Haha, wow, I forgot about the whole "We are all Georgians" thing. I bet McCain hates the internet too. No one can open their mouths anymore to lie with the media. Goes with my thought in the Iran thread. I love it. It's the best tool we have now for keeping people honest.

The Today Show gave McCain the space and time to repeat what he said the last day or so about Iran and Obama's handling if it etc. And right before I was about to be mad and was expressing it in this post, he then said he didn't think we are less safe and thought we shouldn't torture and violate the geneva convention....

McCain doesn't have to be beholden to the extreme right anymore... his presidential; aspirations are over.

 

You're right but his statements about Obama's handling of Iran and how he should be handling them is illogical. It does us no good to stick our heads in other nations business so much. Obama has to work with whatever government is left after all this. Let's just hope the revolution works to great extent with as little casualties as possible. Unfortunately that doesn't seem possible. It seems like it's going to be a huge fight.

On POTUS, I just heard an interview with a foreign policy expert. The interviewer kept pressing (paraphrasing):

Q: Why does President Obama seem so soft on North Korea? At what point will President Obama finally put out a really tough statement against N.Korea saying "The US will show our muscle if this continues."

A:  And what exactly will that accomplish? We all might feel really tough for a few seconds and say "Yeah take that  North Korea!" But we are dealing with an insane leader who cares not for the people or for rational thought and such talk does us no good. President Obama is saying exactly the right things and with the right tone. 

It made me think of how McCain and/or Bush might react with that "cowboy mentality" and I shiver at the thought. I feel hopeful about the Obama Doctrine when it comes to foreign policy-it's refreshing and might actually be effective, even with these really tough nations.

 

 

 

 

Not only is Kim Jong Il nuts, we probably have no idea how his 3rd son will govern or handle diplomacy (or lack thereof). I seriously doubt that exacerbating the transition of power will be a good thing for the region, so any saber-rattling will be a very bad idea, contrary to what twits folks like Bolton believe.
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It's sad that we've reached a point where 'government service' is a dirty word... If we're the greatest country on earth, maybe we can have the greatest government.

Lewis Black

Good thing you uh fixed that um typo.... *shifts eyes*....
I edited that post about 5 times, but I didn't touch the struck-out part. :D
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It's sad that we've reached a point where 'government service' is a dirty word... If we're the greatest country on earth, maybe we can have the greatest government.

Lewis Black

From HuffPo:

A pleasant surprise: Pat Buchanan had praise for Obama on his handling of Iran.

"The Obama policy of extending an open hand to Iran is working and ought not be abandoned because of the grim events in Tehran. For the Iranian theocracy has just administered a body blow to its legitimacy in the eyes of the Iranian people and the world.


Obama, with his outstretched hand, his message to Iran on its national day, his admission that the United States had a hand in the 1953 coup in Tehran, his assurances that we recognize Iran's right to nuclear power, succeeded. He stripped the Ayatollah and Ahmadinejad of their clinching argument -- that America is out to destroy Iran and they are indispensable to Iran's defense."

 

OMG, hell has frozen over! He's obviously been hanging around Rachel to long... That's awesome! Wait a sec......huh?

Hey, check out this photo from today's Mousavi supporter's rally...

Maybe I'm crazy, but Buchanan never bothered me that much. He has been way off base on certain issues but he kind of has of a "grandfather" appeal to me. We all know that older fellow who is set in his ways, dislikes change of any kind, but has a soft heart. Even in heated debates, he doesn't seem nasty or big on personal attacks. And he seems to laugh at himself often. Maybe that's why he and Maddow get along so well. Hey, maybe Buchanan is actually surprising himself and starting to like this Obama guy!

Romney Rush Republican Rant

Romney's "talking point" proves, as if further proof were needed, that Rush Limbaugh has taken over the Republican Party -- in this important respect.

To do his job, Limbaugh needs to come up with three hours of fresh anti-Obama material every day. (This is one reason, of many, why he sounds like a lunatic even to many people who don't like Obama.   I would sound crazy if I had to come up with three hours of pro-Obama material every day. Hell, MICHELLE OBAMA would sound like an idiot if she had to deliver three hours of new pro-Obama material every day.)

But this is the Republican leadership strategy...   three hours of new anti-Obama material every day. It's gotta come from somewhere. They think they are running a talk show and not a party. 

This explains, for example, why the RNC hammered Obama for going  with Michelle to an...ahem... extravagant night on out Broadway. (No politician ever gets criticized for going to a professional sports event, where ticket prices are generally  higher -- trust me, my son and I do a Baseball and Broadway weekend every summer. I TOTALLY know this.)I don't imagine that security at a 50,000 seat stadium with twelve public entrances  is all that much cheaper for the tax payer than security at a 1200 seat theater with two. Extravagant night out on Broadway while Americans lose their jobs. Yeah. Right.

But, presumably, rich elite liberals go out for a night on Broadway.  "Real conservative Americans" tail gate outside stadiums (which, unlike Broadway theaters, are usually underwritten by municipal government tax breaks, government bond issues, and a government/business relationship that bears an unsettling similarity to that beween David Vitter and his masseuse).

At any rate, if that is Romney's idea of astute foreign affairs analysis, I think he actually falls below Palin's, "YOU can see Russia from parts of Alaska." At least that's TRUE.

 

Brilliant! You rant well.
Modesty forbids.  Thank you, Alina.

I agree with Alina, you do rant well.  Sigh,.....and were I not married............

Running a talk show and not a party!  Priceless, funny and absolutely on the mark.

By the way, everyone, Letterman (the show) was hilarious last night.  Michelle Pfeiffer was great and an amazing 51.

Thank you, too, Maggie.  I rant better than I look, so hang on to your husband. And, yes, I was relieved that Letterman rose to the moment, at long last, and delivered a terrific "let's get passed it" show. (Plus, I think
Lyle the intern is the funniest running sketch I have seen on television in years.)

LOL, i've been watching Leno exclusively too long it seems because I had not seen Lyle the intern before. I got caught up after watching about 7 YouTube videos of him and Dave. Hilarious stuff....

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