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Who Do You Think Is More Annoying Sen. Nelson (D.-Neb.) Now Or Paul Krugman Three Months Ago?


By NoMcSame - Posted on 03 June 2009

I'm curious to hear what people think about this one!  Personally, Nelson is ticking me off more with his latest comments on healthcare today!  But then again, Krugman's relentless rants on how "Obama is wrong," were irksome as well.  I wish Nelson would emulate Krugman and just keep quiet!  Every time he says, "We want to prevent the erosion of the private market" or "We don't want the government to take away the private healthcare that millions of Americans enjoy," (Enjoy?  Seriously?  He used THAT word?!) my blood pressure rises =). The following article is from the Huffington Post:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/06/03/nelson-clarifies-position_n_210996.html 

On the one hand, I can understand why the private insurance firms are putting the screws to Nelson-- he's one of their biggest campaign fund recipients.

On the other, I have to wonder what goes on in the brains of those who think that a public option necessitates the destruction of the insurance industry. Must be one of those wind-up monkey dolls with cymbals.

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It's sad that we've reached a point where 'government service' is a dirty word... If we're the greatest country on earth, maybe we can have the greatest government.

Lewis Black

I hear you, NoMcSame. I just got a very disturbing letter from my doctor's health care organization.

It seems in less than 30 days I will no long be able to use my doctor. The doctor I've had for over 15 years. Probably more than 20 years, if I think real hard about it.

Why? Because our insurance company is dropping them from their In Network list. Which means I will have to pay triple if not more to see him, completely out of pocket.

Keep in mind, I'm a cancer survivor, what do you think the odds are of me getting a "better" insurance company or "better" benefits if I "shop around"?

And where the F*** would  I "shop around" anyway?! I don't have an employer (I'm a consultant, my own 'boss,' one of the ubiquitous 'self-employed') so my husband's company is where we depend on insurance.

::sigh:: Yea, I sure do "enjoy" my "private" healthcare that I have a "choice" about. ::sigh::

That's a  bummer, TC! I feel for you.

I had to change doctors a couple of years ago, because my doctor dropped the BC/BS network because their reimbursements to network providers was not to his liking.

It happens both ways.

 

 

Charp,

 I am so sorry and angry for you.  I too am self-employed and forgoing surgery until I can get ahead.  Hah! I will pray for you and all of us at the mercy of politicians that hem and haw and stall at our expense........

MaggieCat

Yeah, the idea of now having to go to another doctor, to replace someone who has been my health care partner for so many years. . . He knows me inside and out (literally).

I know I can't change my health care plan, so I have to change my doctor. It's really pretty terrifying for me. 

In the past 20 or so years, I've had different insurance plans, and I've been very fortunate that he's been In Network for all of them. This news, coming out of the blue, and now giving me such a short lead time to find a new doctor I can trust. . .okay, starting to hyperventilate now . . .

 

Changing a doctor that you've had for so long, especially as a cancer survivor sounds like really bad news. 

Just a thought though, would your current doctor be able/willing to recommend someone who the insurance company still accepts?  Surely your doctor believes your health comes first and having to stop checkups is not a good way to insure your health.

Senator Nelsen is my Senator. Most the time he's pretty much on quota with the people here. But, You have to remember where a big Insurance state. They give a lot to his campagne. Farm Ins., Auto Ins., Med ins., employee Ins. is a big deal to. I don't think Nelsen intends to run again, an so he doesn't believe he has anything to lose, but he has to set it up for his successor to run and keep the Ins. company money on board for 2010. I don't always agree with him, but than I don't agree with everyone all the time. I am disappointed in Nelsen on the health care, as Nebr. has good health care system, but a lot of our rural area care is disappearing, an cost is sky rocketing to unaffordable for the average or poor here.But than I'd rather have nelsen, than Rick Perry of Texas, were I use to live years ago. We could do a lot worse.
TheCharp, I will certainly pray for you. I hope you find a good Dr.! It's important you have a good Dr. when you are a cancer Surviver. Don't forget to get your regular work up, blood count and etc. It's very important. If you don't like the Dr. you get, change immediately till you find one that is honest, and will follow through with every T and I dotted for your own safty. We lost everything as self employed when my husband got cancer, an his surgeon/Cancer Dr. didn't follow through, and he is dieing of terminal cancer. He now has medicaid that pays for almost everything,but I have all the previouse bills to pay. You take good care of yourself.

   Cant answer the who is more annoying thing. I would opt for Krugman, given his recent remarks about Reagan. But I dont care, its like asking me whats more annoying, nails on a chalk board, or Fran Drescher!

 In regards to the health care we "enjoy". I cannot complain one bit. I have an ankle problem. I call my Dr on friday to tell him I will be in town on Monday. He sees me half an hour after the office closes because thats the soonest I could get there. He orders Xrays at the hospital, because his tech was gone for the day, and I get the Xrays, that night!!!!! I get a call Tuesday morning, from my Dr who already got the Xrays back (Hospital is on the same street as my Dr) My Dr tells me that I will need surgery, and central scheduling will be calling me. Central Scheduling has no need to call me, I call them, because I know someone. My surgery is scheduled for the following morning at 6am. By wednesday night, 5 days after my initial call, I went from calling my Dr, to recovering from surgery. I truly "enjoy" my private healthcare! (The someone I know, my mother in law, is head of central scheduling at the hospital, so things do move a little faster, and a little smoother, than normal. But really, only a little. She cant MAKE anything happen, she can only make it happen better)

 I do enjoy healthcare in this country. And thank God! I pay for my healthcare. And I do this when I could get VA benefits for free. But I would rather pay, than use the current government run system thats available. I just hope that option remains! Otherwise we will all know what I have already learned about Govt run healthcare!

"Government doesn't solve problems, it subsidizes them" ~ Ronald Reagan

RF...the assurance has been repeatedly given that those who are happy with their private healthcare will be able to keep it.  The bad thing though, is the possibility that their premiums may go down. ;-) 

 Assurance from the government is as reliable as the weather, maybe even less!

 "Government doesn't solve problems, it subsidizes them" ~ Ronald Reagan

In this case, I'd be willing to make a wager, and I'm not a betting gal.....;-D  I have that much confidence

  I know I am high on percocet! But you are drunk on kool aid. LOL!!!!

 I better stop before I get in trouble with Suzi, and my wife.

 GOOD NIGHT for real this time

"Government doesn't solve problems, it subsidizes them" ~ Ronald Reagan

Time will tell RF....and I will expect a public acknowledgment of how right I was, right here for all RFOers to see.

Now go to bed before you get in real trouble.  lol

Hi ReaganFan, how are you?  It's been a while since we talked, I hope you're well =).  Anyway, I saw the conversation you and Suzi had and I wanted to reassure you too that no one will force you to take the public option if you don't want it.  Trust me, the public OPTION is NOT mandatory!!  If you like what you have, keep it.  I'm sure Obama won't take it personally =).  Like Suzi, I'd be willing to bet you on this as well =).  For me personally, I would prefer the government option to the private profit based sector because I'd rather appeal to a neutral government bureaucrat than someone who works for the for profit insurance industry and is REWARDED for denying me care.  But that's just me (and pretty much every other RFOer on here =).  Take care, my friend =).  

NoMc, I feel as you do. Somethings are just too important to be totally privatized. Insurance co. should non-porift like they used to be. I was just conversing w/ a conservative friend of mine on FB and he is very much like Limbaugh in his beliefs. He thinks the education system needs to be privatized. HUH? so they have control over what the children are learning? I thought they were about choice, and we alrady have that choice, if you want your kid in a private school you can pay for it if you have the money. Go figure.  

Insurance co. should non-porift like they used to be

BCBS is 'non-profit.'

Really? Look into Anthem and WellPoint and tell me what you discover.

That's hard to parse.  Anthem and WellPoint merged in 2004.  'Anthem' as a company no longer exists but the name does and is used for marketing purposes in some states.  Have I lost you yet?  At the time of the merger the then Anthem company converted from non-profit to profit.

WellPoint is an independent licensecee of BCBS and UniCare.  Ticker symbol is WLP.

I don't see how? Not one person has shown how costs will be abated - only prices.  Cost controls do not work.

Are they reducing medical salaries?  Are they increasing the # of providers?  Are they reducing the cost of developing drugs or the high tech diagnostics machines?  Exactly how are they reducing costs other than perhaps streamlining administration costs.  I really am curious -not trying to be facetious.

Hard choice....they both annoy the hell out of me.

 

 I will not throw the first punch but I wil certainly throw the last.....President Barack Obama.

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