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By Barbara Gordon - Posted on 21 November 2008
If you consider his VP pick of Biden, you can see that Obama takes his time and considers all possibilities before picking someone and that is good for us.
"How can you build a future when your past still haunts your present" - M.R.H.
I don't know much about some of these folks, but I voted "A-OK".
I rarely had a problem with people in the Clinton administration, it was Clinton's own occasional misbehavior which put such a cloud over his terms in office. He was still surrounded with some pretty smart people.
"For those who plan with audacity and execute with vigor, progress is the magnificent by product."
Obama on the ground running:
CNN reporting that cabinet confirmation hearings will be held during the first weeks of January and then voting on confirmation of key people will be made immediately after the inauguration -- even possibly that same afternoon and evening. They can hold confirmation hearings but they cannot vote to confirm until President Obama is sworn in.
I like Daschle for HHS because, being, a veteran of the Clinton Administration, he has learned from Clinton's mistakes and knows now how to fight back against the drug and insurance company lobbyists who seek to prevent Universal healthcare for every American!! I also think Clinton will be an effective Secretary of State. She is both intelligent and seasoned and will add diversity to Obama's foreign policy approaches with respect to the extent of diplomacy we engage in and with whom.
However, I am concerned about Geithner. According to a recent article from politico: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1108/15903.html
"Republicans may also question Geithner’s credentials, as some conservative pundits have already. “He doesn’t have the credentials of other treasury secretaries” or Summers and former Fed Chairman Paul Volcker, also on the short list for the treasury job, said John Berlau, director of the Center for Entrepreneurship at the Competitive Enterprise Institute, a conservative think tank.
Critics also say that Geithner’s close connection to the bailout means he’ll just continue down the course charted by Paulson."
The market went up close to 500 points Friday, because of the Geithner pick. Any pick is going to make some group go "Wow! Now that's what I'm talking about!" and start buying stocks. As long as they don't carry a heavy negative, the market will go up.
Key point: Non experience in a major corporation . . . not a CEO pick.
Obama and Biden will hold a press conference on Monday morning to officially announce members of their economic team." The press conference is at 11 a.m. Central, noon Eastern, at a hotel in Chicago.
I have make sure I watch it.
Thanks for the heads-up, Misty! Hopefully I'll be able to watch it too!
"I SO voted for Barack Obama! 10/25/08"
Well, if the market's reaction is anywhere near the reaction it had last Friday when Barack Obama tapped Tim Geithner as his Treasury secretary ... it should be a good day!!
doesn’t have the credentials of other treasury secretaries”
...nor leadership experience in a major
corporation, Berlau noted.
Remember the entire election was about how inexperienced Obama was. Guess he porved the critics wrong. Now let's give Geithner that chance to prove himself.
How are the markets looking thus far? I sure hope we can actually have a string of positive days. Boy do we need it!
The WSJ seems to approve. When they approve of a Democratic pick, that speaks volumes as to calming nerves, IMO.
Note, this is the same article I referenced above, in response to NoMc.
How are the markets looking thus far?
Nice rally today - market closed up 370+ points. The market seems to like what it's been hearing: Obama's "experienced" centrist picks for his cabinet, stimulus plans, and the bail out of Citi bank is contributing to the upswings of the market.
Told ya!! lol
U.S. stocks posted the biggest two- day rally since 1987.
Bush today said he is prepared to make other financial-rescue moves like the one to help Citigroup. Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson also is considering asking Congress for the remaining $350 billion in the Troubled Asset Relief Program to help revive consumer credit, a shift in position from six days ago. - Link
Timothy Geithner, who's set to be nominated as Treasury Secretary, was involved in the decision as president of the New York Federal Reserve Bank, Fratto said.
"He plays a very important part in all of these discussions involving the financial markets and financial institutions,'' Fratto told reporters at a White House briefing. Geithner and Paulson "talk as frequently as any two people in town,'' Fratto said.
Fratto wouldn't say whether or if other financial firms will get federal aid, but he said if there's a need, the response would be swift. "We would never foreshadow any specific actions involving private firms,'' but "we don't want to wait until firms are failing,'' he said. Government Must `Step In'. - Link
and the republicans in Obama administration are:
1- Robert Gates
Sorry, Gates is an independent
It seems some horrible 90s "deregulators" are back to work: Summers, Rubin (son), Geithner...
Gates is a former Republican turned Independent. We discussed that elsewhere, and cited our sources.
Are you ever pleased with what Americans do, Xavi?
And there's no sense crying over every mistakeYou just keep on trying 'til you run out of cake.
I'm sorry but I think this is a nightmare...this is not what I expected from someone who talked to us about change and new hope. These are the same exact idiots that have been running the country for the last 20 years...where is the new blood or change he promised to bring to Washington. Maybe you all can be blinded by his rhetoric, but he has already disappointed me as a voter who went against my own party in hope for exactly what we all wanted...CHANGE!
I quess I looked at this like a sports fan...when your team sucks and you have lost for years and years...the idea is to clean house and get rid of everyone making the team suck. You do a complete overhaul! You get rid of the GM, coach, assistant coaches, players...and you start rebuilding a new team. I quess that was what I was looking for and President-elect Obama chose to bring in GM, coach, and players from a different losing team. It's like being the Kansas City Chiefs (1-15) and switching the GM coaches, players, etc. from the Detroit Lions (0-16). Either way they all suck!! The last thing I wanted to see was players from the old Clinton years...these are the same people that make me a die-hard Republican.
Maybe I jumped the gun on hope and change! This is really going to be a bad 4 years...I hope the Republicans can get back to Reagan principles and fast...we need Newt in 2012!
First, our nation is at its worst economic point since the Depression... I believe choosing people who can hit the ground running on January 21st (actually, they're beginning NOW) is the best thing he can do for the situation we're in.
Second, while I'm not the biggest fan of Bill Clinton, WHAT was so bad about his administration that choosing some of his cabinet will be such a nightmare?
Third, I took his message of "hope" and "change" to mean change in the big picture, like how the U.S. is viewed by the rest of the world... and changing policy AWAY from the Bush Doctrine... and changing the fact that you don't have to agree with Obama idealogically in order to be a federal judge. None of that is any different today than it was on Election Day 2008.
Calm down RM. Everything is going along according to plan.
If you listened during the campaigns, and really paid attention, Obama promised "change in the way Washington does business", based on the premise that we are not red state vs blue state, different races or political persuasions, but the United States of America. He wants to run a government that is inclusive, not based on us vs them.
To go with your football analogy, stop and think about it. If you start bringing in new coaches etc, would you bring in people who had no coaching experience, or players who had never played the game? If you did, your team would be laughed out of the stadium after being stomped by the opposing team. Since the last 16 years have consisted of Clinton or Bush people (20 years if you include Bush 41) all of the experienced people had to come from one of those administrations. You may not be a Clinton fan, but you have to admit that as an administration, no personal conduct, the Clinton one was far superior to the Bush years. (I voted for Bush twice, so feel I can say that). So the choices are: Clinton people, Bush people, or people with no government experience what so ever. ONE MAN beginning to bring change to DC cannot succeed without people who know how Washington works. Obama has picked a mix of experienced Clinton people, new people, and a few Republicans and Independents. The change he promised us wasn't in the people, but in the way they operated. There is no way to know how successful that will be until Obama has been in office for a while. But the moves he is making so far certainly indicate that he is sincere and will do all he can do implement that change. How co-operative others will be remains to be seen.
Really, it doesnt matter. He has made some good choices, some not so good choices. I think he is doing the right thing. I believe he is putting a lot of thought into it. I believe he has a plan and is putting the right people around him to help implement his plan.
That being said, I just want to point out the typical campaign hypocrisy every candidate is guilty of. He said "change we can believe in". This looks like the SAME old Clinton administration. Thats not really change. ALSO, he said no more "Washington politics as usual". Once again, the Clinton admin was typical Wash politics.
But they all do it, I didnt think he was different, and I really have no problem with his picks. Well, most of them. Rahm Imanuel is gonna prove to be a problem. Just watch.
Yea. Definitely Daschle. Not only is he a lobbyist, which the Obama campaign critisized McCain so much for (how many he had on his staff) but he is a far leftist. And I applaud Obama in his efforts to reach across the aisle and appoint some moderates and even republicans. But this guy is so far left it almost cancels the "R"s out.
I dont know much about Holder, other than the recent news regarding him being a "legal fixer" for his clients while in private practice over the past 8 years. And if he used his inluence as a former Clintonian, maybe he shouldnt be attorney Gen. But then again, maybe he should for the same reason!
Brandon and RF, you two are gonna love each other. You have a lot in common. ;-)
Blakey, the cavalry is here.....lol
LOL! *banging a gavel*
We now call the weekly meeting of the RFO trolls to order.............
Have we had RFO troll officer elections for 2009 yet?
I nominate Blakey for president!
Y'all are funny;-) For now, we just have Blakey as TICIT. (Troll In Charge of Incoming Trolls). I don't know if I can trust him to keep an eye on you two though...you may try to overthrow him. As he was duly appointed by the "Decider" his role stands. lol
LOL...the whole TICIT and Troll award thing is a rolling joke. But don't tell Blakey....;-)
Hmm, you always have to watch those who say they have no desire to take over.
Change or Retreads?
BACK to the Future?
The 20th Century is over. Not putting forth any argument here, just asking the question---why so many recycled personalities from the 90s? It's not like there aren't plenty of competent people to pick from.
IMO, more new faces (Cuomo from NY, Granholm from Michigan, etc.) would have been a refreshing "change" along with a few more Republicans too.
Of course, Bush brought his share of gray beards to the White House too (Rumsfeld, Cheney, et al), so I guess it's politics as usual.
Oh well. Obama is the "decider" now.
I dont think adding former Clintonians to his cabinet is a bad thing. There is something to be said for experience. Heck, its a good idea to surround yourself with SOME experienced people.
The point I was making, and I believe the political cartoon shows better than I could, is that this is not really the "change" he promised for months on the campaign trail. It's my job to point out ALL (you like that one Ron? LOL) of Obamas faults and fibs. I am a troll! Its what I do. I have no problem with the Obama appointments. I just dont like that he said "CHANGE CHANGE CHANGE" and then produced more of the SAME SAME SAME!
Although I will admit, he is behaving very different in his pres elect status then most, or all, before him. Im impressed with many of his decisions thus far (except that destructive economic plan)
Many people, yourself included, need to re-examine Obama's promise of change, and what he campaigned on. I've repeated it so many times here for those that heard the word, but didn't pay close attention to the full message. PEOPLE are not the change. per se. The change is in the "way Washington does business" and closing the us vs. them gap.
If you want a more detailed explaintion, you'll have to find it on here. I don't feel like spelling it all out again.
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