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Clinton supporters prefer Clinton concede?


By Barbara Gordon - Posted on 18 February 2008

An article today indicates that a couple of prominent Hillary supporters are apparently hoping the NY Senator will not try to win the nomination either by having the Superdelegates overturn a popular vote, nor by having Florida and Michigan's delegates seated.

Even some of her own supporters realize the detrimental effect these moves would have on the party, and are hoping she will either win the popular vote outright, or allow the popular vote to prevail. Harlem Representative and Hillary supporter Charles Rangel said, "The people's will is what's going to prevail at the convention." And pro-Hillary Senator Charles Schumer remarked, "I don't think either candidate wants - or can even get away with - forcing their will."

These sentiments grant credence to the growing theory that the Democratic Party will act in some way to ensure that the nomination is neither won nor lost strictly on the basis of the Superdelegate vote or on the basis of some other contested technicality.

She's already trying to steal Florida, again!  Talk about hypocrisy.  Even her supporters are starting to wake up to what she is.

There is a reason Obama is winning this Democratic Primary.  He is winning in states.  He is winning in the popular vote.  He is winning on delegates, even taking into account those "Super" establishment delegates.  The reason is simple.  He is the better candidate who can bring all of us together to work towards real and lasting change.

Obama is the most electable Democratic candidate by far.  He is the way we take back the White House.  The proof is in the polls.  He averages 6 points better against McCain than Hillary does.  Obama beats McCain in polls.  Hillary only ties.

One of McCain's own top strategists even said  he would resign if Obama is the Democratic nominee because he doesn't want to attack Obama.  http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/02/13/top-mccain-adviser-ill-_n_86578.html 

And, contrary to popular belief, Obama is tougher than Clinton.  Of the two candidates, only he had the guts to oppose the Iraq war from the start.  Hillary Clinton still hasn't come to terms with the most important vote of her relatively short-lived political career as an elected official.  She still won't admit she made a mistake on Iraq.  She said Bush duped her. 

Just last Fall Clinton voted for Bush's bill to declare Iran's military to be "terrorists."  This was the equivalent of an unnecessary declaration of war.  At the same time Bush was waiving around the image of World War III with Iran in support of his bill, Bush knew about a secret National Intelligence Estimate prepared by the CIA which found that Iran had stopped its nuclear weapons development program in 2003 and probably hadn't restarted it.  Hillary Clinton was duped again.  And again she wouldn't admit she made a mistake.  Instead she sent a letter to the White House "clarifying" her position.

Yes, there is a reason the McCain is hoping that Hillary Clinton will be the Democratic nominee.  McCain is hoping he can keep independents as well as his own campaign managers from jumping ship because they like Obama.  And McCain is hoping he can debate Hillary Clinton on Iraq because her spinning on that issue just is not very convincing.

And Hillary Clinton says she is more prepared and detail oriented than Obama.  Once again the proof is in the pudding.  Her campaign ran out of money, was unprepared to deal with caucuses and has had to fire a whole bunch of people for poor performance and political low blows.  In contrast, Obama's campaign is well run, well financed (even though they don't take money from lobbyists while Clinton does), and consistent in its message.

It's time to vote for the Democratic nominee who is most electable and will make a great President.  It's time to vote for a President who can unify America.  Without unity, without hope, there is no chance of real change.  Without hope there never would have been civil rights reform.  Without hope we never would have come out of the Great Depression.  Once again, we have nothing to fear but fear itself.  Obama '08. 

Yes we can!

PS I came across this post written by someone else and thought it was good so here it is:

Let's take a closer look at who's really qualified and or who's really working for the good of all of us in the Senate. Obama or Clinton.

These bills can be found on the website of the Library of Congress www.thomas.loc.gov

Please pass this on

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Clinton
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Senator Clinton, who has served only one full term - 6yrs. - and another year campaigning, has managed to author and pass into law - 20 - twenty pieces of legislation in her first six years.

These bills can be found on the website of the Library of Congress www.thomas.loc.gov, but to save you trouble, I'll post them here for you.

1. Establish the Kate Mullany National Historic Site.
2. Support the goals and ideals of Better Hearing and Speech Month.
3. Recognize the Ellis Island Medal of Honor.
4. Name courthouse after Thurgood Marshall.
5. Name courthouse after James L. Watson.
6. Name post office after Jonn A. O'Shea.
7. Designate Aug. 7, 2003, as National Purple Heart Recognition Day.
8. Support the goals and ideals of National Purple Heart Recognition Day.
9. Honor the life and legacy of Alexander Hamilton on the bicentennial of his death.
10. Congratulate the Syracuse Univ. Orange Men's Lacrosse Team on winning the championship.
11. Congratulate the Le Moyne College Dolphins Men's Lacrosse Team on winning the championship.
12. Establish the 225th Anniversary of the American Revolution Commemorative Program.
13. Name post office after Sergeant Riayan A. Tejeda.
14. Honor Shirley Chisholm for her service to the nation and express condolences on her death.
15. Honor John J. Downing, Brian Fahey, and Harry Ford, firefighters who lost their lives on duty. Only five of Clinton's bills are, more substantive.
16. Extend period of unemployment assistance to victims of 9/11.
17. Pay for city projects in response to 9/11
18. Assist landmine victims in other countries.
19. Assist family caregivers in accessing affordable respite care.
20. Designate part of the National Forest System in Puerto Rico as protected in the wilderness preservation system.



There you have it, the fact's straight from the Senate Record.


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Obama
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During the first - 8 - eight years of his elected service he sponsored over 820 bills. He introduced

233 regarding healthcare reform,
125 on poverty and public assistance,
112 crime fighting bills,
97 economic bills,
60 human rights and anti-discrimination bills,
21 ethics reform bills,
15 gun control,
6 veterans affairs and many others.

NY TImes Obama's record in the Illinois Senate
http://www.nytimes.com/imagepages/2007/07/29/us/politics/20070730_OBAMA_GRAPHIC.html

His first year in the U.S. Senate, he authored 152 bills and co-sponsored another 427. These inculded:

1. The Coburn-Obama Government Transparency Act of 2006 - became law,
2. The Lugar-Obama Nuclear Non-proliferation and Conventional Weapons Threat Reduction Act, - became law,
3. The Comprehensive Immigration Reform Act, passed the Senate,
4. The 2007 Government Ethics Bill, - became law,
5. The Protection Against Excessive Executive Compensation Bill, In committee, and many more.


In all, since entering the U.S. Senate, Senator Obama has written 890 bills and co-sponsored another 1096.

An impressive record, for someone who supposedly has no record according to some who would prefer that this comparison not be made public.

Hey, Anonymous, great post. I think the thing about Florida is pretty funny too. (Can't they *ever* vote without a controversy?)

The lower part, though, the part that you quoted, I got that email too. Something seemed fishy, so as a librarian I decided to do some research on the legislative comparison. Anyhow, I poked around and it appears that we're not comparing apples to apples. Whoever constructed the comparison is using the strictest search terms possible when searching for Clinton (only bills which were passed into law AND which she herself authored or sponsored), whereas with Obama we're listing anything he was ever associated with, regardless of who authored it or whether it was ever passed into law.

You get what I'm saying? As much as I hate to admit it, it's not a fair comparison. The really funny part is a lot of the initiatives that Obama worked on, they worked on together, so it's pretty cute that an Obama supporter would try to get away with this.

Anyhow, I'm all about accuracy in our defenses of Obama, so I just wanted to let you know.

thanks for posting!

 

 

 

BRAVO Barbara!!  I thought that was a bit too good to be true also, and planned to research it a bit tonight from my home computer.  Thanks for saving me the trouble.

I love how you were willing to speak out in the interest of fairness and fact.  I so admire and respect honesty and integrety...yours and Obama's.

Well thanks, Suzi, that's nice of you, but as a librarian...it's just my job.

Obama, though, he's a politician, so honesty's kind of the opposite of his job, eh?? :-)

I thought Barack Hussein Obama was the right choice. His books moved me, his speeches are amazing and everything about him seemed right to me. I firmly believed he was my voice...until I did some research and realized his voice and message was a tangled web of lies.

Below is what I have found about Obama. If You don't have time to research, read this...

1. Barack does accept support from lobbyists.
2. Barack didn't vote against the war.
3. Barack's wife, Michelle, is currently a corporate lawyer, which Barack criticized H. Clinton for being some 20 years ago.
4. Barack made a business deal with an indicted crook, arguing that it wasn't a big deal.
5. Barack voted to fund the war just a few months ago, all while giving speeches claiming that he doesn't support the war and never did.
6. Barack refers to women as "biiitches" and doesn't find the need to apologize for it.

When I started researching about Obama, I just realized that he's a typical politician, but with great speechwriters and a great speech style; these tactics had convinced me he was different. I was wrong. The truth is, when you research his campaign tactics and people, you will learn these top six facts above that surprised me.

Most of us are aware of Obama and his history. 

1. Barack has ten lobbyist bundlers. That's true. But Hillary has twenty and McCain has sixty.  Obama is the only one who does not accept money from PACs

2. Barack didn't vote against the authorization of war. That's true. He wasn't in the Senate yet.

3. Michelle is a corporate attorney. I have no idea what that has to do with Barack.

4. Barack made a minor deal with Mr. Rezco. Clinton and McCain have shady figures in their past, as well. Clinton had to return nearly a million dollars raised by Hsu, who evaded authorities and fled to Hong Kong after being accused fraud. McCain was featured on the front page of the NYT just a few days ago, with questions regarding the history of his relations with various lobbyists.

5. Barack has explained repeatedly why he continued to fund the soldiers. He felt it was unfair to deny our troops the equipment they need while deployed overseas.

6. Source? I have no idea what you're talkling about. But McCain's staff has referred to Barack by his middle name and called him a "hack," and McCain himself laughed when his supporters referred to Hillary as a b*tch in South Carolina. 

<5. Barack voted to fund the war just a few months ago, all while giving speeches claiming that he doesn't support the war and never did.>

On the first four of your "points", I agree with Barbara's facts.

On number five, I would like to add to what Barbara posted.  I'm sure you watched last night's debate since you are such a well informed voter.  I refer you to Sen. Obama's statement about what to do when someone "drives the bus into the ditch".  That totally refutes your point 5.

As for number 6, that's a dirty, possibly racist, political jab that I haven't heard before. 

As a Republican, I did a lot of research on all of the candidates. I have done even more on Obama since I decided to support him, as I do NOT want to misplace my vote.  The only place that I find the types of things you allude to are on the "anti-Obama" websites, and in fwd. fwd. emails.  Would you care to give me your sources so that I may check them out?

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