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Disgusting. Please tell me I didn't hear what I thought I heard.


By SG8970 - Posted on 06 October 2008

Did someone in the backround say "Kill him"? And did McCain just describe his onw campaign. Does this man have any shred of decenancy or honesty left in his giant bitter inflated ego with a an equally horrendous personal agenda?

Newsweek article where I found the video.

http://blog.newsweek.com/blogs/stumper/archive/2008/10/06/will-mccains-anti-obama-strategy-work.aspx

 

I didn't post the video right, it's in the article link.

This is absolutely disgusting.

On Oct. 6, 2008 in Clearwater, Fla, Palin got into her Ayers speech.

"Boooo!" said the crowd.

"Kill him!" proposed one man in the audience.

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Posted Tuesday, October 07, 2008 8:15 AM

The Moderate Voice: A Red Flag for the Secret Service?

Anonymous Edit
A disturbing trend may be on the rise at Republican rallies. It is one thing to state that your opponent may have character issues or may not be the best choice to serve as President of the United States. It is something else entirely to stoke a fire that may incite violence against a sitting United States Senator who is the other party's nominee for President. Today, in a rally in Clearwater, FL., at a speech given by Governor Palin a man reportedly said Kill Him in reference to Barack Obama. We have a little less than a month to go and we are well past the point of civility in this campaign. Perhaps we all need to step back and take a collective breath. I would hope that neither Governor Palin nor Senator McCain would welcome support... more

 

I'm afraid you heard right. Even McShame was irked by it for a split second. Looked like a freakin' KKK rally.

Here's the video... warning: do not watch in any situation where you would rather not be heard using angry expletives.

The American people are slow to wrath, but once that wrath is kindled, it burns like a consuming flame.  - Theodore Roosevelt

You are right, alina, it does look like a KKK rally. Sad, Sad, Sad....
I agree with it looking and sounding like a KKK rally, what a sick, sick pathetic excuse for a "man."
He obviously heard the comment from the crowd. How about a political ad where "John McCain's crowd yelled 'kill him' and he did not do anything? Is John McCain condoning the killing of Barack Obama?" -- I think I may have watched too many of McCain's ads, they start to rub off on me :)

More McCain lies. 

Today, The New York Times wrote a facts check article about this town hall meeting: Drilling Down on the Facts in McCain’s Speech

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It does sound like that is what they were shouting and then started laughing.....And McCain makes me sick is he really talking about someone being negative? Puh-lease!

Actaully he needs to realize what the hell he is doing. These people are just looking for a reason to do Obama harm. They will explain it away by saying Obama is dangerous and its for thesafety of there wives and daughters..People these sort of sick beungs are out there and mcCain and his Female dog (pitbull thats what she called herself) is fanning the flames.

 

They should be ashamed

Ive sent this video to everyone I know a while back and posted it on facebook...Why would anyone support someone who lies as much as McCain??
I don't know. I just can't wrap my head around how anyone can support this man with the type of crisis this country is in. What kind of rational person would want this erractic, dishonest, win at all costs, man in the white house. He is not who he use to be, if he was even that. It's hard to know what to believe when he has abandoned every last ounce of honesty and responsibilty he supposedly once had....

Are the trolls writing his speeches?

Here's an excerpt from the speech today:

"Rather than answer his critics, Senator Obama will try to distract you from noticing that he never answers the serious and legitimate questions he has been asked. But let me reply in the plainest terms I know. I don’t need lessons about telling the truth to American people. And were I ever to need any improvement in that regard, I probably wouldn’t seek advice from a Chicago politician.

My opponent’s touchiness every time he is questioned about his record should make us only more concerned. For a guy who’s already authored two memoirs, he’s not exactly an open book. It’s as if somehow the usual rules don’t apply, and where other candidates have to explain themselves and their records, Senator Obama seems to think he is above all that. Whatever the question, whatever the issue, there’s always a back story with Senator Obama. All people want to know is: What has this man ever actually accomplished in government? What does he plan for America? In short: Who is the real Barack Obama? But ask such questions and all you get in response is another barrage of angry insults."

Sounds eerily familiar...

The American people are slow to wrath, but once that wrath is kindled, it burns like a consuming flame.  - Theodore Roosevelt

This is how it works.

Step 1: Find out what are our most fundamental weaknesses.

Step 2: Accuse the other side of those weaknesses so that you will, at least, have the "but I said that first" argument.

OMG would McCant and Failin just shut the hell up?? The first part of this "speech"described Pailin to the "T"..*ugh*
In this speech, at the part where Mcsame asks the crowd "who is the real Barack Obama" a guy yelled from the audience "a terrorist!"  And he just kept on talking, isn't silence a form of acceptance?  That's what scary and dangerous. People who still think this way in 2008.

And he just kept on talking, isn't silence a form of acceptance?

In my opinion, McCain's silence in this particular instance is a form of or a sign of success.  Because that is all that "rally" was designed to do... fan the flames of hate and fear.  NEVER in my life have I seen, or did I dream I would see, something like this in a Presidential campaign. 

What an embarrassment for our great country...

 

How true.

:(

The American people are slow to wrath, but once that wrath is kindled, it burns like a consuming flame.  - Theodore Roosevelt

Country First. 

Why anyone would want to encourage hate - particularly in a country as diverse as our own - when they can turn on the news any time they want and see how that kind of tactic has worked in other countries...I'm sorry, there's no excuse for it.  It's obvious there is no regard for America at all in that attitude.  I can only guess that their need for power has become so great that they have become blinded to all else. 

I just hope Americans fall back on their basic decency and common sense to recognize the horror of this and refuse to support it.  I don't want to be part of a country where later people look back and say...how and why did they let that happen?  It truly scares me.

This is scary!!!!
I'm not quite sure how to put this, but it is really interesting the difference in the sense of humor between conservatives, especially extreme right-wingers, and, well, everybody else.  If in fact someone DID say, "Kill him!" at this particular McCain rally and was called on it, he (I'm assuming it was a he) would probably reply that it was just a joke.  I have seen other such "jokes" and "humor" on other conservative sites and I really wonder what is going on in their head to make them think this is funny.

The Hitler Jugend were pretty into this kind of "humour" too. 

The American people are slow to wrath, but once that wrath is kindled, it burns like a consuming flame.  - Theodore Roosevelt

It's ironic you should bring up Hitler's name.  Most people don't know but in the 1930's a new religion sprung up in Germany called the "German Christians".  Basically they tried to adapt Naziism into Christianity to make an acceptable religion to the Third Reich.  About 85% of clergy went along with this, the same approximate percent of Evangelical Christians who voted for Bush in 2004.  I've always thought, so what are the demons behind that doing now?  I'm sure they didn't invent the conservative political religion of Robertson/Falwell & co in the U.S did they?

Deutsche Christen...

This really IS the most important election in our lifetimes.

The American people are slow to wrath, but once that wrath is kindled, it burns like a consuming flame.  - Theodore Roosevelt

Is he going to be so "brave" tomorrow? What will happen if some of his hate filled supporters are there tomorrow? I'm not worried about Barack's safety, the secret service will protect him... but at this point I'm hopeing that if something does happen that sick mean old man gets knocked on his backside in the scuffle. (and even though I do worry about his physical health its his mental health I am referenceing here.
It wouldn't shock me if we all found out that John McCain wasn't real.  He just seems so fake!
That smile of his is the smile of a desperate man!

His smile seems so spooky to me.  It's more appropriate for Halloween night.  His laugh is even worse.

Felicia

Rachel Maddow in her show tonight said that in the McSame rally today, a supporter said "terrorist" and in pitbull palin's rally, a supporter said "kill him".

Either way completely shocking, highly inappropriate that a candidate would NOT stop these comments - but honestly McSame is proving that all he cares about is winning at all cost - however, the reality is that he will Lose.

GOD forbid that these type people completely lacking in principles would even have a chance...

OMG... McShame campaigned for Wallace? Well, that explains a whole lot. Wallace was in neck deep with the Klan.

The American people are slow to wrath, but once that wrath is kindled, it burns like a consuming flame.  - Theodore Roosevelt

"OMG... McShame campaigned for Wallace? Well, that explains a whole lot. Wallace was in neck deep with the Klan. "

 

YOu know what the sad thing about Wallace was he ended up getting shot and spent the rest of his life in a wheelchair. It was a black woman that took care of him and the blacks who supported. All the hateful Klan members basically turned their backs on him. He said he regretted the day he ever got involved with the Klan and him espousing racial hatred for a vote. It's might funny how the tables turn.

It's might funny how the tables turn.

I like this saying, and I think it applies here....

"God don't like ugly!"

or

"God never sleeps!"

The excerpt below is copied from Daily Kos, and is a report of other things that went on at Palin's rally.  I am truly afraid, and not terribly proud of my country these days.

I don't hold McCain or Palin responsible for what their supporters yell, but they definitely don't exhibit the behavior of great leaders by allowing these things to go on and not speak out about them.

Palin's routine attacks on the media have begun to spill into ugliness. In Clearwater, arriving reporters were greeted with shouts and taunts by the crowd of about 3,000. Palin then went on to blame Katie Couric's questions for her "less-than-successful interview with kinda mainstream media." At that, Palin supporters turned on reporters in the press area, waving thunder sticks and shouting abuse. Others hurled obscenities at a camera crew. One Palin supporter shouted a racial epithet at an African American sound man for a network and told him, "Sit down, boy."

The problems we face will not be solved by the minds that created them.

Why aren't we seeing the footage of this??? I hope it comes out.

The American people are slow to wrath, but once that wrath is kindled, it burns like a consuming flame.  - Theodore Roosevelt

It's slowly getting picked up....There is an article in WaPo by Dana Milbank on it and Rachel talked about it last night.....

Ind: I watched Rachel's show last night, too.  Do you recall a story about the U.S. Army adopiting a new policy? If I remember correctly, it was basically taking the Bush Doctrine as official policy, but I could be remembering incorrectly.  I just heard it in passing.

I am trying to find more data on the issue but don't know where to start.  The story disturbed me when I heard it but I can't remember the details. 

 

Yes...it seems that Army will be doing more nations building, moer "Peace Corps" like missions.....

I missed  most of the segment but I think their mission statement has afficially changed.

I don't know where to begin. Obviously, you can never control what someone in your crowd of supporters says or does-but you certainly can respond to it/send a message of disapproval. Saying nothing condones the behavior. I am so ashamed right now that anyone would find it acceptable to shout out such hatred or to throw such hatred towards the press (I am not saying they are always perfect-but this is ridiculous!)-and that someone running for President or VP would stand silent. This goes way back to the early attacks we saw on Obama-some more subtle than others but all outlining a scary racial theme of hatred. The GOP and McCain's campaign will now have to bear some responsibility here. This will not reflect highly upon such leadership and I predict will be outright rejected by the majority of Americans. If McCain does not address this or allows it to continue, there will be major consequences. It is just disgusting. I know that if something inappropriate were yelled at an Obama rally and Obama heard it, he'd confront it immediately. The shame I feel is in 3 parts:

-as a Republican (what has happened to my party? This is truly rock bottom!)

-as a Christian (the audience is supposed to the religious right-wing. How is that acting in a Christian way?)

-as an American

Let's turn the page on this and elect Obama! It's our only hope!

Kelly,

Well written (great points) and I agree with you completely!

Amen Kelly...What is that teaching the children in the audience? (I'm sure some were there...)  I won't even let my kids "BOOOOO" the other team at a football game!!  But to scream out "KILL HIM?!?!?!"  There is no excuse for that kind of backwoods, uneducated, hate mongering, filthy, evil, racist tinged sound remark.  The "GOP" ( and I use the euphamism lightly) is falling to pieces...what a sad, sad day for America. =(   McCain is McLame...he should have addressed the issue, right there on the spot.  Standing up and doing the "right thing" isn't always easy...but it is THE RIGHT THING TO DO...and probably would have won him some votes from the "undecided" category...Once again, McCain doesn't do THE RIGHT THING!  Disgusting.
I did see children in the background of the rally where the sherriff introduced Obama as "Barack Husein Obama" and the crowd went wild. The kids sort of exhanged glances as if they did not know why the cheers errupted, then started clapping along. I was truly sickened. This is not the message I want any child to see. My daughter came home from kindergarten a few years ago and told me she learned about Martin Luther King and Rosa Parks and told me "a bad man shot MLK because his skin was dark" and we talked about it and have kept up the conversation for 2 years since that. I am very open with her and want her to understand the past and how some people still have trouble letting go of that (obviously I speak in general terms and don't want to scare her.) After watching the movie Hairspray, I decided it was alright for her to watch with me and now it's her favorite movie. I think it has such a strong message about tolerance.
HOW will the country even begin to mend after the electiion with this crap going on???????? these jokers don't "love" this country - they love power and revenge and are EVIL. They want  to destroy this country and put it's citizens back in caves.

....or instead of caves, back on the plantation.

Felicia - texas

Free Speech stops when inciting terrorism ...

There's no constitutional free speech protection for inciting terrorism; Google-YouTube and NYT are off-base

"... I, like all Americans, cherish and understand the critical importance of truly respecting freedom of speech in our American Democracy.

  • However, we also should all understand that a person cannot have freedom of speech if they are dead from terrorism or have been intimidated or effectively silenced by terrorists...." more

 

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