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just another Republican for Obama
Just stumbled on your web page, seems like a good place to share my feelings. I'm 28, married with one daughter, homeowner, middle class and all that. Though I don't attend church regularly, I consider myself a Christian, raised United Methodist. I listen to right wing talk radio at times, NPR at others, even Air America now and then. I seek out all opinions, even those I disagree with.
But why do I support Obama? Mostly because his presidency will be the most interesting and historic in my life. I believe America is ready for a black president, I won't deny that's part of the reason. Maybe I'm just so sick of Bush's (who I used to support) incompetency that I have an anti-incumbancy bias. While the office of the president does have some substantial powers, more importantly, the president is the face of America, which I believe is best suited for a man like Barack Obama.
But what about ZOMG SECRET MUSLIM!!!1? Pfft. My uncle went to Catholic school when he was a kid, doesn't make him a catholic. And Wright? I've had laypeople speak at the church I went to growing up that could be considered quite radical (mainly anti-catholic and anti-jew). I don't buy this `guilt by association' business, all politicians have known thousands of people in their lives. If this is the best reason critics can come up with not to vote for Obama, it's just pathetic.
But why not McCain? I deeply respect and Admire John McCain. My opinion is strictly pro-Obama, not at all anti-McCain. John McCain would have made a great president in 2000, but I believe his time has passed. Furthermore, his apparant lack of proper vetting in his running mate selection does not reflect good judgement.
Bottom line: There's a chance to make history here and witness one of the most exciting and interesting presidencies ever, and I'd be insane not to want to see it unfold.
Just my 2 cents.
"But why do I support Obama? Mostly because his presidency will be the most interesting and historic in my life."
The United States has serious problems and you are going to elect the leader of the free world for entertainment value.
At least you admit you are decadent.
I've never been one to believe America's fate will be similar to the Roman Empire, but after your post I'm not so sure.
I can understand that sentiment. In fact if I had told this to myself years ago, I would have thought I was crazy. First of all, the president isn't as powerful as some people believe. Obama can't take away firearms or strengthen abortion rights.
If Al Gore had won in 2000, what would the world look like today? Firearms banned, mandatory abortions, state ownership of all factories? NO. There would likely be stricter environmental laws, we would almost certainly not be in Iraq, but otherwise it would look much the same as it does now.
Actually, I hope (though I don't expect) to see an Obama presidency with a Republican house and senate.
But of couse that's just my opinion, I know many would disagree.
You made a grand entry into this group with your excellent post. I am so glad you have joined and look forward to more fine comments.
Just today we learn of more misery that Bush rained down on the innocent Iraq people:
Cholera prompts state of emergency in Iraq province
HILLA, Iraq, Sept 8 (Reuters) - Officials in Iraq's Babil province declared a state of emergency on Monday after an outbreak of cholera in the area.
Cholera has killed eight people and infected 20 others in the past three days in Babil, south of Baghdad, officials said at a news conference. Ihsan Jaafar, general director of public health at the Health Ministry in Baghdad, said only two fatalities had been confirmed.
Some 500 other people in the province were suspected to have contracted the disease, which can sometimes kill victims with sudden severe diarrhoea, the local officials said.
A representative for the World Health Organisation (WHO) in Iraq said the body was still gathering information and would announce its findings soon.
Ambulances patrolled Babil markets warning people through loudspeakers to be careful about where they bought their food and drink and how it was prepared, a Reuters witness said. It was unclear what other measures the state of emergency entailed.
Scarcity of water during Iraq's scorching summer forces many to drink water from unsafe sources. More than 4,000 cases of cholera were confirmed in Iraq last year, killing at least 24.
LMAO!
I'm not a troll but a sincere person who is very sad alina that you are so lost.
If Al Gore had been elected president, we wouldn't have Roberts and Alito on the Supreme Court and several very important judicial decisions that impact your life and freedoms would have gone in a different direction.
The presidency is despite what you might think still the most important elective office in the world and to make your choice base on how entertaining you think the next 4 years will be is unbelievable to me.
Brandon - You know I don't think you are a troll. In fact I enjoy discussing the issues with you. I just thought the comment was in fact very funny because many many actual trolls have visited this site.
Some are the hit and run kind and others stay for a bit.
Relax man. I know things got off to a rough start but the past does not equal the future. Peace
I'm not voting for `entertainment value', there are implications here for improved race relations, improved foreign relations, many things that go beyond the legislative and judicial aspects of it.
I'm not some starry eyed college freshman caught up in the `hope' and `change' buzz, thinking that Obama is going to ride into Washington on a white horse and start busting skulls and changing the world. But I have considered many factors before deciding to support Obama.
Ellen, we will find out late on November 4, 2008 if I won the war.
It will actually take longer to find out if I won the battle. It will be a few days before we see the research on how many Republicans voted Democrat this year and vice versa.
"there are implications here for improved race relations, improved foreign relations,"
Then, I would consider you very naive.
If you believe in any conservative principles (maybe you don't), I urge you over the next 60 days to consider more factors.
Brandon is alright. In fact, he is helping us. He is the perfect picture of the type of person that inhabits the far right of the GOP, and thus the very reason why this site (and I am sure others like it) exists.
He is closed-minded, and does not comprehend anyone else's point of view.
If I had any reason to believe that McCain would implement conservative principles, I might have thought differently. Considering that Bush spends money like a drunken liberal, I'm not inclined to believe that McCain will be any different. If Obama does nothing but balance the budget in 4 or 8 years, we'd be in better shape than we are now. And yes, of course potential supreme court picks are a concern, but you're never going to get everything you want in politics.
We need common sense and compromise. For instance, whether you believe that life begins at conception (personally, I do), or you believe in rights to abortions, we can all agree that we should take steps to limit the number of abortions, even to strive for a world where they are unnecessary. Whether you were for the war in Iraq or opposed to it, we need a long term strategy that is in America's interests.
Bush had nearly 8 years to get some common sense bipartisan stuff pushed through and he hasn't. I believe that Obama can.
"I believe that Obama can"
What do you base that belief on?
McCain has a long history of being bipartisan and going against his own party.
Obama has no record at all of bipartisanship and has been a straight down the line liberal Democrat.
Maybe I just get the impression that he's not a stubborned butthead who will resist anything he doesn't 100% agree with. Maybe I'll be proven wrong, maybe I'll be proven right, but that's my opinion.
I simply feel it's time for a change. I know a lot of people beg to differ, that's what's great about free speech and the communication age.
Howdy Nekom,
Welcome, I have always voted Republican and use to only listen to the Rt. Wing radio shows and finally saw the light last Dec. 2007 and became more confident in my decision to vote for Obama when I joined this site.
The people here (exception of the Trolls) are amazing with wealth of information - they do their research and I am completely impressed!
Plus, we went to see Barack Obama in person (took my whole family), making sure that our kids see History and remember the moment. I was not disappointed and the Dems were very welcoming to us Republicans and the crowds were overwhelming...
I can't wait to say I saw President Obama in person when he came to TX.
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Plus, we met President Reagan in person at a party, we were only 21 yrs old and knew the Sessions (William Sessions FBI director / Federal Judge from San Antonio, TX) - we also attended the swearing in & met the Prez again; it was a privilege we will never forget!
I hope you will base your decision on facts and not your impressions or feelings.
Opinions without facts are worthless even though you have the right to have them.
But there is nothing in the public record that would indicate Obama will do any of the things you claim.
McCain has a long history of being bipartisan and going against his own party.
Oh sure voted with Bush over 90% of the time. How could you post that out and out lie?
That is flat-out wrong, Brandon. Off the top of my head, I can think of three pieces of bipartisan legislation Obama has been a part of:
Lugar-Obama, which expanded the Nunn-Lugar Cooperative Threat Reduction (CTR) Program, to secure and dismantle loose nukes in former Soviet states.
The Coburn–Obama Transparency Act, which requires full disclosure to the public exactly where tax dollars are going in the year 2007. And in June of this year, Senator Obama, along with Senators Carper, Coburn and McCain, introduced follow-up legislation: Strengthening Transparency and Accountability in Federal Spending Act of 2008. This, in a nutshell, allows you to see when your tax dollars are being used for earmarks and pork.
Obama-Lugar American Fuels Act, which isto help develop alternative fuel technologies and reduce our dependence on foreign oil.
There are a lot more as well, including three with Sam Brownback: "Iran Sanctions Enabling Act," which would increase economic pressure on Iran, the Darfur Peace and Accountability Act in 2006, and Brownback and Obama collaborated to introduce legislation establishing a clear U.S. policy towards the Congo in 2005.
There are more examples of bipartisanship, all easy to find with Google :)
~Will
And all liberal liberal liberal!
Liberal, I say!
Boo! <-- the sound that scary liberals make.
:D
(Sorry, just poking a little fun.)
The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, & wiser people so full of doubts.
-- Bertrand Russel
Please, "Boo"? That is so 90s.
Nowadays we carry clanking chains and moaan haunting cries of business regulation and sexual/religious tolerance.
:P
~Will
Oh sure voted with Bush over 90% of the time
Because it is a misleading statistic. 90% of the time is only for the current year.
Most of the last 7 years, McCain has voted with Bush 70 something percent of the time which is very low for a Republican senator and a Republican president.
Most of the last year, McCain hasn't voted at all. A good bit of the 90% percent was on the immigration bill that Bush, the Democrats and most Republicans all agreed on.
Most of the last 7 years, McCain has voted with Bush 70 something percent of the time
Bush was not right even 30% of the time so McCain was still wrong 70plus percent of the time. Then add that to the fact he chose a ruthless woman with the same murderous attitude towards anyone that opposed her demanding total loyalty or else and you get the ugly picture.
Wow... this post just took off before I could say, Hello.
Welcome nekcom... I guess you can see that you won't be bored. :)