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E-mail to send to Texas Republicans

By afnighthawk - Posted on 16 February 2008

(This post was neither authored nor approved by the leadership of  Republicans for Obama.  It is simply a posting in a public forum.)

Attention All Texas Republicans and Independents!!

On March 4th, Texas Republicans and Independents will have an opportunity to end Hillary Clinton's (and Bill's) presidential ambitions once and for all!

Since Texas has on open primary, Republicans and Independents should sign in at their polling place and request a Democratic ballot. They should then vote for Barack Obama. Even James Carville admits that if Hillary loses Texas, "she's done!" Republicans can help make this a reality!!! Just think, no more Clintons in the White House!

Voting Democratic this one time will have NO effect on your ability to vote in the next Republican primary or obviously on your vote in November. Since John McCain has the Republican nomination locked up, voting for McCain or Huckabee at this point will have no effect on the outcome on the Republican side.

After you vote during early voting or on March 4th, you ARE NOT done! Report back to your regular polling place at 7PM on March 4th to sign the Barack Obama list for caucus delegates. In a little known Texas voting quirk, 67 delegates to the Democratic convention will be seated because of these caucuses. This is a full one-third of the total number of Texas delegates. For Hillary to lose, she has to lose the primary votes AND the caucus votes.

I urge you to vote against Hillary Clinton by voting for Barack Obama. Please forward this e-mail to all your Texas Republican and Independent friends so that we can help ensure the Clinton's defeat on March 4th!!!

AFnighthawk~I have some issues with this. I love your passion, for sure. And you are encouraging a win for my Guy...however, this is troubling. I am voting FOR OBAMA. NOT AGAINST one other candidate. If Obama doesn't win the nomination, I will re~evaluate each person, and make a decision based on my conclusions. I am so troubled by a sense this is not the "fair" way to do it. It's strategic, but in a sordid sort of way. If someone doesn't want to vote for Obama for any reason, then don't cast a vote for him. DON'T VOTE FOR OBAMA or organize a vote for him, to rob her, in a sense of an election if that is the will of the majority of the people. (hope not, but that's a true test) I know we in the Obama camp have a huge problem with feeling the election might be stolen by Hillary and the Super Delegates, and that would be UNFAIR. I don't see this being "FAIR" either.

 ALSO, ONE HUGE DISTURBING TREND taking place to taint the voting on the Democratic side is there is a movement to get Republicans to come out to the primary's and caucuses to VOTE FOR HILLARY because they feel she'd be easier to defeat for McCain than Barack. THAT MAKES MY STOMACH TURN, and I can truly see why people are so turned off by politics and stay out of it!!

I am going to keep fighting, but trying to LIVE UP TO MY STANDARDS, despite temptaions to lower them. At any cost.

Thanks for your passion, but please, rethink if this would do more harm than good.

Bless you, and BLESS TEXAS!!


In a perfect world I might agree with you, but politics isn't a perfect world.  Some people vote FOR a candidate and other people vote AGAINST a candidate.  If the powers at be wanted a more pure election, they would hold a closed primary.  An open primary allows members of one party to influence the outcome of the other party's election.  Hardball politics?  Sure.  Unethical?  No way.  If you really believe in a candidate, a vote is a vote no matter why it was cast.  By the way, I am FOR Barack and will support him in November as passionately as I do now!

sandi  this is disturbing what you are asking? people in the past have  claim that our party the rep are dishonest, and un fair and  you are proving it,  um voting for  obama   in november o.k.  not because  i think  hiliary will lose to  mccain but because i dont have a   2 face  o.k. im voting  obama  because  as a republican we can change amerca,  susan  dont you think that  obama will beat mccain in november    mccain doesnt have a chance

Angelo, I can totally assure you that Sandi is in NO WAY dishonest or two faced.  She is one of the most enthusiastic Obama supporters that I know.  You would not believe the number of ways she has found to become involved in garnering support for him.  She is AWESOME!!!!

Due to the unique way Texas has of holding its primary/causcus, she was merely reacting to a process that she didn't understand at the time.  I doubt that many of us understood the TX process before now.....I know I didn't.  Sandi has a very strong sense of fairness, and it is easy to understand how, to non-Texans, this process seems unfair.  It is not until we realize that every voter has the same opportunity that we see that it IS fair to all.  Part of our job, as Obama supporters, is to make sure that our Texas voters realize this, and cover all bases.

I'm glad you are going back and reading some of the older posts.  As you do, you will find out that we discuss the pros and cons, and the political process, as these things are very important to getting our candidate elected. 

Thank you sweet sister! I appreciate you having my back! It's a tough world we walk into when we decide to voice an opinion and we must also be able to take it, too. No matter what happens to me, or is said or misunderstood about me, I am always in awe of Barack, who takes it with the most grace. To have his wife's words twisted, to have his own words twisted, WHAT HE COULD DO and what he is doing, is a testament to a strength that CAN TAKE ON THE EVIL OF THE WORLD, and can restore our standing with other countries. HE IS SUCH A ROLE MODEL, I am amazed with his characture. That is the stark contrast in every one of the other candidates left. Except Huckabee...I would not vote for Huckabee based on many reasons, but WHAT YOU SEE IS WHAT YOU GET WTIH HIM. He doesn't change his positions based on the crowd he is infront of, exactly like Obama. I just chose Obama's uniting quality, too. When he said he was going to reach out to those Evangelical Christians, I thought Hillary was going to fall off her chair. I know his message is inclusive not exclusive. HE GOT MY VOTE BEFORE AND THE NEXT ONE I GIVE TO HIM, I AM GOING TO BE WEEPING LIKE A BABY!!! I am so proud!!!!!!!


Angelo~I think you might be confused that I am the one wanting people to vote for Obama, just to beat Hillary. Anyway, I believe you should for who YOU think would be the best person. I also am learning, it's none of my business to tell someone what to do. (even if I have strong feelings about it)

I don't think I am two~faced, but I know I have two~chins! ha!

Have a wonderful election, and Barack the Vote!!!!

You are correct of course. It's not a perfect world. I just feel better trying to make it as perfect as possible. And I am not judging you, because I do agree there are so many things that take place that I am very naive about.

You'd think by now, at my age, I would have seen everything...but I am still surprised by many things. What is supposed to be, will be, and I will deal with whatever that is.

HOPE FLOATS TO THE TOP! I hope and pray it does!!!!

Sorry Sandi -

I am voting in the Democratic Primary - first and foremost - to vote AGAINST Hillary Clinton.  If Obama wins the nomination I will give him my fair consideration, but for the moment my main goal is (and I hope the goal of many other Repubs and Indies in Tx and Ohio) to STOP Her Majesty from her self-righteous "coronation. "

Let's do it everyone.  Bush/Clinton/Bush/Clinton ??? Are we out of our minds??  Vote for Obama - the Repub nominee is already a done deal!  If we turn out in big numbers we can do this!  Let's Roll!

I understand. I get a little self righteous, too, sometimes. Thanks for considering Obama. It means a great deal to me.
I wish I could come an spend a little time with the hillary haters 2 years from now  when Barack is cozy in the white house and pushing through to a democratic congress every liberal bill they hate. He will move the populace Through eloquence to get behind whatever his agenda is.The Republican party will dwindle to haters and zealots and there will be fifty years of Dems in power

The Hillary haters have no reason not to vote for Obama. A vote in the Republican primary is a waste, UNLESS there are some down-ticket races which are important. So if anyone wishes their vote to mean anything, it's a vote in the Democratic primary. Nothing unusual about this, just about every Republican I knew growing up in Louisiana was a registered Democrat because the Republican ballot had no real choices to make.

November is a long way off. If the Hillary haters get their way the contest will be between McCain and Obama. No one says that one cannot vote for Obama in March and McCain in November. Right now the only choice to be made is between Obama and Hillary. At least with Hillary gone we won't have to worry about Bill as ambassador to the U.N.

john alot of republicans are voting for obama  in march and obama in november ok

John, like you, I grew up in Lousiana and was a Democrat, for the very reason you state.  On the local and state level, there wasn't a real party choice.  But I always voted my conscience in national elections, which means I crossed back and forth over party lines.  In the early 80's I was completely a Reagan supporter, and got tired of being called a Reagan Democrat, so I switched my party registration, and have voted Republican until now.  My support of Obama is not as a Hillary hater, nor a lack of support for McCain.  It is total, committed support for Barack Obama.  I beleive he is the one candidate that will bring our nation out of the pit of partisanship we are in, and I think his stand on a lot of issues will bring long overdue changes to the way our government operates. My vote WILL NOT change in November if Obama wins the nomination.

What part of Louisian are you from?  I'm just outside of Baton Rouge in Ascension parish.


This forum post is being spread on some websites filled with Democratic supporters like it is an official distribution from this group. Am I correct to assume that this is a post made by an Republicans for Obama supporter, afnighthawk, and not an offiical communcation from RFO?

I cannot answer as to whether or not anything is an official communication, as I am a member here, and not a part of admin., therefore have no authority.  But from what I have seen in the past, anything that is broadcast about RFO is posted here as such. 

That being said, I would like to point out that the unique way Texas has of running its primary/caucus is being pointed out by some of the campaigns themselves.  Just this morning on the news channels I saw Bill Clinton and Mike Huckabee encouraging their supporters to vote twice. :)  Since this is perfectly legal for this process in TX, there is no problem with it.  Every voter has the same opportunity, so it is fair, no matter where your support lies. 

So Obamacans, do the Texas Two Step!!!! 

suzi do u think the republicans are going to vote for obama because they think he will lose to mccain?  hiliary will lose to mccain not obama so if they  are voting for  obama it might backfire in their faces  in  november when obama is elected what do u think?

Angelo, I personally think that the Republican candidate would much rather face Clinton than Obama.  The very early polls are showing that McCain would defeat Clinton, but lose to Obama. (Of course, it is way to early to put much faith in polls, IMO)  Any Reps that are switching parties just to ensure a McCain victory are playing with fire, no matter which way they vote.  There are a lot of people out there, myself included, that would not want to see another Clinton in the White House.  But there are also a lot of people that would.  So voting, especially switching parties, for any reason other than a firm belief in the candidate you vote for, is risky strategy to me.

To back up my statement that McCain would rather face Clinton, I'll point out that McCain is already campaigning against Obama in some of his speeches.  This appears to me to be part of a strategy to influence Dem voters "against" Obama, and therefore "for" Hillary because he (McCain) and the Rep party feel they have a better chance of beating Hillary.

My own opinion is that due to the miserable failure of the Bush administration, the Republicans are going to have a hard time remaining in office no matter who the Dem nominee is.  So that makes it all the more important for those of us who really support Sen. Obama to get out there and do all we can to ensure his nomination.  THEN we will worry about November, and put all of our energies towards helping him win the general election.

francis im a republicans  voting for obama in november come join us  republicans for obama  are rep  are  welcome

This thread and email are perfect ammunition for Clinton.  It is being used in a major way to create anger amongst democrats and is having a significant impact.

If you want to  support Obama in the primary and the general but to vote "temporarily" in the primary to vote for someone else in the general is unethical and stands against what Obama stands for.

This email fits Clinton interests so well that I wonder if anyone can vouch for the poster or if he is in fact a Clinton poser who is trying to create a negatiive image of Obama 

I am interested in finding out more about how this thread is being used to create anger.  I don't doubt your word, and can see how it would happen in the twisted world of politics.  Do you have a link or more information that I could use to do a little research?  Thanks.

GRANTCART.........I have been nosing around on the DU site, and have found your posts refering to the subject of this email.  But was getting a headache trying to find the original post there that started the anger.  Could you please direct me there?  Please?????  If anyone else knows where it is, please let me know.

Also, this site may not be as "professional" as DU, I will agree.  But the big difference to me is that this is a grassroots site dedicated to a common cause.  Even though we willingly discuss or debate the topics, there is not so much party in-fighting as on DU.  Let each site serve its purpose.  Personally, I prefer this site where the people are courteous and familiar.  Where, except for an occasional flamer who comes in here with both guns blasting, the debates are discussions instead of confrontations. 

Personally, I hope that they don't pull the email post.  This site has been very good about not making arbitrary decisions about what posts to allow and what to pull.  Altho I may disagree with the "temporary" party switch if not planning on voting Dem in the general election, it is still everyones right to make that decision for themselves. 


Look - a lot of Republicans/Independents are voting for Obama in the primary to knock Clinton out of the race.  That is our prerogative.  If McCain can't beat Obama - then McCain can't beat him - McCain may not be able to beat Hillary either - in which case I'd rather have Obama anyday.  The thought of the Clintons back in the White House makes my brain ache. 

Clinton and Obama are both the same on the issues anyway (actually I think he is a bit more flexible than she on health care and the economy - etc)  - so given a choice - if the Democrat is going to win - I'd rather have Obama any day than Hillary and her husband and all their baggage, along with their arrogance and sense of entitlement.  Who needs Bill & Hillary back renting out the Lincoln bedroom again to all their high powered elitist friends.  They have both already made millions - all they want now is the power back - it is never enough for these two.

 VOTE OBAMA - "twice."


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Can you provide a link to the external posts you're referring to?

Barbara,  This isn't in reference to Francis, but if you will notice, grantcart has posted basically the same message.  I've done a little digging, and found some of the follow up posts from grant that refer to this.  (see my above reply to grantcart)  Here is a link to one of his posts.  (There is so much traffic on that site, that following anything can take hours. )

In the interest of fair disclosure, grantcart IS an Obama supporter.  He is also a party Democrat who went to Obama after Edwards dropped out.  I read some of his journal, and he gives me a headache. :)  And democraticunderground is certainly not to my tastes. 

If you want me to do any more digging, I will.  As I said, to my knowledge, this applies to grantcart, not francis. 

A tough spot for Republicans. Most conservatives hate Billary, but we're not too excited about McCain either. Obama? Probably trouble, but who knows? It's gettin' crazy, that's for sure. I'm voting for Obama as you suggest, but I'm doing it knowing that I may end up getting what I vote for. Is that a good thing? Hell, after what's gone on for the last few years, I'm ready for just about anything. I've never seen this party in worse shape. I sure hope we can get back to being a party again soon...

Hi Sandi,

I did vote for Obama, but against Billary. I knew McCain would be fine. Not to worry though, it looks like I may vote for Obama in  November, it will depend on his running mate and How well he does against the old guard. I think if you have an open primary, like we do in Wisconsin, you have the opportunity to vote against someone, it is just the way the system is designed.


This request is being used as anti-Obama ammo on it is being suggested that dems don't like him really, but that this is a strategic move by some Rove-like genius.

It is worrisome. They link to this page (which is how I found it) 


Anonymous, Thank you sooooooooo much for sharing this information with me.  I went to this website to check it out.  By the time I got through all of the hate spewing rhetoric to find the link to this page, I was nauseous.  For example, this link is found on a previous link titled "Obama's Voter Manipulation (It's called stuffing the ballot box. It's cheating)"  So, does this mean we are getting famous?  We are now mentioned on two Obama hating web sites.  Maybe someone will follow the links and learn a little bit about what Obama REALLY stands for, and have a change of heart. 

Has anyone else noticed that the pro-Hillary websites are very slick and professional?  Almost as if a lot of big money and big-time organization had gone into designing them.  Quite a contrast to our grass roots movement site whose design allows for an honest discussion of issues, and is inclusive of any point of view.  Hey, that compairison kind of reminds me of the two campaigns.  :)

For those of you with strong stomachs, here is the link to the page that talks about the email sent to us, as mentioned by Anonymous.

WOW, Suzi was right to notify me of all these happenings here. I've been working and at hockey tournaments and have not realized all the craziness.

True, when I saw the email urging people that hate Hillary to vote for Obama, it bothered me a lot because I was naive to believe things were not done that way. Even if in my purest heart I am a REPUBLICAN VOTING FOR OBAMA because of his message, and in fact, I like McCain, Huckabee and even Hillary Clinton. OBAMA IS MY FIRST CHOICE~BY FAR for many reasons. Simple as that.

When groups try to distort and manipulate something to happen, I believe the will of the people will RISE no matter what. Because those things we manipulate for are not in our hands for very long. (that is just life).

I do know that I don't have the right to tell someone how to vote either, even if I disagree. AND DISAGREE STRONGLY. I cast my vote, offer my endorsement, rally others and let the future fall were it may.

Obama is stuggling, I am sure, to stay on the high ground, being the victim of tanted voting, and being the beneficiary of tainted voting. IT'S A PUSH!

It's such an interesting time, and smokefilled rooms have now been replaced by internet chat's and websites and blogs. At least some of us can feel we are still representing a pure voting rational. I listend to Obama, I was persuaded to change my vote by a man I believe to be the best person to lead us in the future, and that's that.

And I am still hopeful, and (for suzi) JAZZZZZZZZZZZED about this wonderful HISTORIC TIME!!

ROCK ON BARACK! This Republican chick LOVES YOU!!!!

This it the main reason no one trust a republican. They're always dishonest!!! If you think Hillary is bad, obama is worse!! Obama has no clue what he's doing. He was raise muslim and attends a racist church. Those are facts!!! After the last 8 years, no one wants another republican as Pres. So if Hillary doesn't get it, obama will. Then we'll have the worst 4 years ever, with a Racist Muslim as our Pres. The US had the BEST 8 years while Bill was in office. Why you would vote against another 8 years of prosperity, I'll never know.

I find it difficult to take you seriously with your racist rhetoric, but jsyk:

Wow....I agree with Barbara.  It is difficult to take you seriously.  But giving you the benefit of the doubt,  I am going to share some information with you, in case you have been getting your info from emails that have been fwd. half a dozen times. Oh, and be careful using terms like "no one" and "always".  they are so easy to disprove.

First the Muslim allegation....that one is very easy to check out simply by going to   I trust you will do that.

Now, as for the racist church.  I confess to pasting here a post I wrote on another thread.  I admit that I just didn't feel like typing it all again.  Here it is:

I explored this website thoroughly when I was doing my research on all the candidates, and I disagree with you that it is racist in what it represents.  Racism is defined as:  a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one's own race is superior and has the right to rule others.  That is not at all what the message of this church is.   Just the opposite.  No where is any other race referred to as inferior, or that the black race is superior.  It addresses the black experience in our country in relation to Christianity.  If it were not for the powerful faith of a people in the time of slavery, they could not have gotten through a horrid time in their history.  

I find the message of this church to be similar in many respects to that of Dr. King.  A message of God, family, education and community.  The importance of each individual that has pulled themselves out of the darkness of poverty giving back of their time and talents, so that others can follow in their footsteps.  I don't find that racist, I find it responsible and admirable.   I believe it is natural for each of us to want to better the community in which we live.  Blacks have that same need.  If a white person works to better their white community, it is not called racist.  Why should it be any different with any other ethnic group? 

This church also recognizes their roots in Africa.  That is their heritage.  I too am proud of my heritage, aren't you?  The church I attend, which is mixed but predominately white, has strong mission work in Africa, especially where children are caught in the dire results of the AIDS epidemic there.  Also in missions to address problems there with such basics as clean water.  Just because we are not a so called "black church" does not make those missions any different.

Possibly you assumed they were racist because when you go to the website, it states that they are "Unashamedly Black, Unashamedly Christian".  Good for them!  I am Unashamedly White, Unashamedly Christian.  There is nothing wrong with either stance.  As long as we are good, decent people, there should be no shame for anyone. >

Now I suggest you do a little research of your own using non-biased sources and find out what the facts really are.

I am not a Hillary hater, and I have not changed my party registration, but I do totally support Sen. Obama, and will continue to do so.  I base my support on reality and a vision for the future.


I simply can't believe how misguided you all are. The assumptions about your candidate being "so pure" are an abomination: as it is correctly spelled.

Many of the posts are the naive believing in lies and quite frankly guessing at what your candidate stands for. 'not sure if I should laugh or cry.

You all sound very confused. In fact, you don't even know what your own party stands for much less what Obama stands for.

How can you wing it like that? America is broken. How can you just "take a chance"?

To those with integrity of using your vote for your choice of candidate: How nice of you to be honest. Republicans are not noted for their integrity, but I'm impressed with you. I hope it hasn't inconvenienced you in any way. God Forbid.

I hope you can hack the next 4 years with ObamaHead or McNasty..It's your life too ya'll have to suffer along with the rest of us. America is going down with these two in office. I hope you can hack it. You think it's bad now with Bush? Just wait until Obama or McNasty gets in office. You'll have only yourself to blame.

To the dishonest ones who voted to block a candidate, please get the next plane out of this country. You are a disgrace to Democracy! It is how you conduct your life with every issue and being dishonest on any level does not bother you at all. Tell me, who would want a friend who is a cheat?

There's the door-------------------------->

first of all anonymous, your wrong about  being worse off than what we are already, if  mccain gets in office  its going to be  hell on earth,  he is another bush  is that what you want?  bush had 8 years to fix this country all he did was screw it up, got us  into a war, got us into a deficit that  cant be fix right away, were almost in a depression,  do you hear your self? you say our candidates are liers, well what about bush, i think your smoking something, how old are you? yes america is broken and we need a change, something getting a change means, taking a chance,OBAMA  can do no worse than what bush has done, even  you will have to admit that, i think you work for the   mccain  party, its obvious  because whenever you write an article  i can see   JOHN MCCCAIN  as the signature, vote for who you want, but for the rest of us we are voting for change for america, you ad read heres the door and  yes we are going to open that door   STAGE LEFT    OBAMA  PRESIDENT  2008
anonymous  why dont you run for president and show us the way, it seems you have the answers,  EVERYBODY LETS VOTE FOR ANONYMOUS FOR PRESIDENT HE WILL SAVE AMERICA

If you think Hillary is in any way electable (she apparently can't even win her own party) you really need to do some more research.

It's hard for us to know what our party stands for when our party itself doesn't seem to know what it stands for. But we do know what it historically stands for, and we also know what it tends toward these days. The two, of course, are not the same.

There are those who support Obama strictly because they hate the Clintons. We encourage all our members to express their views; however, it is not the official position of RFO to vote for Obama in order to block Hillary from the White House. This organization formed a year ago for the purpose of supporting Obama in his quest for the White House.

Thank you for stopping by.

barbara did you read the last article from our famous anonymous?

Worse Than I Thought 

Folks say Obama supporters are naive about Obama's record, but I am shocked to see how clueless they are about the intent and tactics of Republicans who have clearly stated they will vote for Obama to get rid of Clinton, then vote for the Republican in November.

Do they really think these folks are friends of the Democratic Party? Or is it that they are just Obamacrats? We've got a new group of folks willing to get Republicans to help us snatch defeat out of the jaws of victory. mMaybe this was the plan all along.

This email was neither written nor authorized by Republicans for Obama. We normally let public forum posts stand, regardless of content, but perhaps in this case we need to take this down.

I must say I'm with you on this one Barbara... We've got lots of other excellent threads going, and to have this one linked to external sites doesn't seem to be doing our cause a whole lot of good, especially since we can't explain to everyone who reads it that it is not official RFO material.

yes but it does rather give the impression of wrongdoing if we take the threrd down and the users get a "page not found" error.

A tricky spot indeed.  Is there any way to post a disclaimer somewhere on the site or near the top of this thread that's a bit more conspicuous in insisting that the views of such threads do not necessarily represent official R.F.O. positions?

I wouldn't worry about this post  too much Barbara.  It hardly makes sense anyway.

Hey guys! Totally agree with the dilema. I hope I didn't start one here myself with my Hillary question. Maybe afnighthawk could edit the post to put these are his views and don't necessary reflect the views of us all (as all of us post our own views~hummmmmmm....not sure what you should do here) WOW, that was no help, huh! ha!

afnighthawk seems to have stopped by for the sole purpose of posting this email. He has, AFAIK, not had any other posts.

Barbara, it doesn't say "not verified" by his name, so could you send him an email???  Didn't he have to give that when he registered??

Wow, again. I don't know. It's a difficult decision. I would say it's truly a choice between two evils. Maybe it would be worse to eliminate it, because it's a slippery slope. What constitutes a "questionable" post. I voiced my opinion IMMEDIATELY against the method of sending out emails as they suggest and they had some good points (about it not being me to say how someone should vote). HOWEVER when it appears to be coming back as "our" opinion, that is not what we want either.

 I would say let it stand, voice that we don't censor the opinions of others, but we don't hold the same opinion.

Just my two cents!

Sandi, I had John add a note at the top. I doubt our visitors will actually read the note, but it's there all the same.

That is the best way to handle it. And you are correct. People will see what they want to see reguardless. I am getting such a great education in psychology. What can seem so innocent can become to toxic. Back to the original thing I talked to you about. That person who called me an Ahole and a baby killer. I was NEVER that way as a Republican to someone else. I guess we didn't know we had the "crazy's" on our side, too.


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