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Debate Reactions

By Barbara Gordon - Posted on 15 October 2008


This is an open thread for you guys to post your reax to the debate.


My thoughts:

McCain seemed antagonistic and edgy. Almost bitter. He said at one point that he thought it unfortunate that the campaigns had taken a distinctly negative turn. He said he finds personal attacks deplorable. But if you noticed, his entire debate rhetoric centered around barbs thrown at Obama. Lots of cheap shots, most of them unrelated to the topic at hand. My favorite was when he accused Obama of working to "destroy the very fabric of democracy." Obama pointed out that the general populace finds McCain's approach too negative. This debate has done nothing to indicate otherwise.

Bottom line is that McCain's down several runs in the bottom of the ninth, he's got two outs already, and he sure didn't hit this one out of the park. This debate will not impact the polls.

Obama was calm, collected, intelligent, and focused. He came across as no-nonsense, just the facts ma'am. I think that's what the American people want.




I yelled at my wife to "turn that (crap) off!" because I couldn't stand to listen to McCain go on about taxes about ten minutes into the debate.

And I didn't mean to yell at my wife, but I was just pissed.

The man really doesn't get it. We can't raise taxes now because we're in a down economy. But we can't raise taxes when the economy is good either because that would be killing the goose that lays the golden eggs.

 It just goes to show that taxes can only go down, consequences be damned, deficits be damned, national debt be damned. 

I can't wait until January 20th when we get some grownups in Washinton again... 

The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, & wiser people so full of doubts.
-- Bertrand Russel

Did ANYONE else catch McCain furiously wiping his hand on his jacket after shaking hands with both Obama and the moderator? We had to rewind it 3 times - what is he OC now?


-formerly klaf

What I can't believe is the complete hatred for McCain by his own party members:(  You guys would make great Benedict Arnold's.  I know that McCain has not shown much if any strong qualities but come on, neither has this Obama character.  Maybe this is a good time for those not happy with any Republican party members to leave.


10/10/2008:  The day I early-voted for Barack Obama!

 Maybe this is a good time for those not happy with any Republican party members to leave.

That is part of the beauty of being an American... we are not FORCED to vote for anyone based strictly on party affiliation. If that were the case, why bother even having an election as it would stand to reason that the party with the most registered voters would automatically win. Part of FREEDOM means that we are blessed with the ability to vote for individual of our own choosing, again, regardless of party.

Hence, even though we are registered Republicans, we are voting for Barack Obama. 

A) My loyalty belongs to my country, not a party.
B) Loyalty should never mean you have to pretend to be blind.

For years I was told how bad I was, how unpatriotic I am because I did not like where George W. was taking this country. If more people had been disloyal and voted for Kerry maybe we wouldn’t be having this economic crisis we have now.

Thank you very much but I will vote for what I believe is best for my country, not for a small portion of the population. 

Great post Granny!!  Very well put :-)

Maybe this is a good time for those not happy with any Republican party members to leave.

There's a saying: Lead, follow, or get the Hell out of the way!

Even though I've been tempted of late to leave the party I will not do so. There are enough other like-minded Republicans that we are going to lead this party out of the morass in which it has placed itself, and if some other Republicans don't like it, then they can leave the party!

The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, & wiser people so full of doubts.
-- Bertrand Russel

McCain should have wiped away a little tear when he talked about how much his feelings were hurt over John Lewis' comments and how Obama wouldn't go kick Lewis in the crotch over it.   That would have added a little more drama to it.

Now doubt. 
I was waiting for the big pouty lower lip. 
I was hoping he would hold his breath until he turned blue trying to make Sen. Obama repudiate Lewis.  But, once again, McCain dissapoints me.


Fox News Frank Luntz says a good night for Barack Obama!

You know what pissed me off the most? That McCain suggested THREE times that the fact that Palin has been the mother of a Downs child for six whole months somehow makes her an expert on autism.

You are so right, Barbara!  My husband and I had the same discussion during the debate.  How in the world does having a 6 month old Down Syndrome child make someone an expert on autism?  Hey, grandpa, apples and oranges.  Maybe someone should explain the difference to him.

Wait... what? Those are like, two totally different things. 

The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, & wiser people so full of doubts.
-- Bertrand Russel

And, no one out there is going to pick up on the difference.  Oh! You mean that they aren't the same thing! 

The only thing McCain knows anything about is war, fighting, and bombing civilians.

I swear, it sounded to me like McCain thinks Palins child is autistic.  I wonder if he knows the difference?
I think that's what he meant too. I would have given him a pass and thought he simply misspoke, but he said it twice. Also, more pandering on McCain's part.

I think it just goes back to the point that McCain is one of those who would just call all of those children "retarded" anyway - no matter the reason.

-formerly klaf

I absolutely agree with you, Barbara.  I have two autistic nephews and we have seen  NO evidence that Sarah Palin has done ANYTHING for children with Autism let alone knows anything about it.  Just having a child with a disability does not automatically make you an expert on ALL disabilities.  

Obama was right. What those programs need most is funding and if McCain is likely to freeze spending or cut funding for those programs if elected. So it was just pathetic pandering and smart moms will see right through it.

Sorry if I sound stupid, but what do the pundits mean when they say "won on points"? I had the same thoughts as Barbara through out the debate.

They're scoring it as a formal debate.

how do you get points?

Oh yeah, I thought that Obama did a good job of explaining the Ayers issue, and immediately after he finished explaining it, McCain said, "He still won't tell us the true story of his connection", or something like that.  I just heard the story.  Maybe he needed to turn up his hearing aid if he had trouble hearing it. 

The individuals that CNN is talking to said that they didn't care much about the Joe the Plumber story.


Fox News pundits commented about how well Obama looked, stayed very disciplined and overall would be perceived as doing well.

Very cool compared to mcSame's odd facial expressions.


I'm trying to get up the guts to switch to Fox, but I don't think I'm up to it.

My husband and I couldn't stand looking at McCain while he was talking and "reacting" to Obama.  I was surprised that McCain was as aggressive as he was about the Ayers-Acorn "issues".  I thought his body language was a complete turnoff.  I thought Obama ended strong. 

What I was most surprised about was my visceral reaction to McCain.  I think it worked better for McCain when he avoided looking at Obama in the previous debates.  I do think McCain got more substance out today regarding his policy positions than he did in previous debates, however.  

One of the CNN guys said McCAin's body language was very belligerent. I couldn't stand to watch him either. I listened to it. I just couldn't watch that much anger and tension without becoming tense myself.

All the post debate polls have Obama winning in every way imaginable.  I am much happier now.  I missed a third of the debate and am happy I will be watching the repeat tonight.

Earlier I felt the following and was sort of in a panic;

"Why didn't Obama kick back on the judgement/association issue with the Keating 5, S&L Scandal and Deregulation friend Phil Gramm?  What is wrong with him?  How could he let McCain get away with so much smear without giving a bit (not a lot), but a bit of it back.  I just can not tolerate McCain and his smug demeanor any longer.  He sneered so often!  He simply has no respect for Obama.  His contempt for Obama is disgusting and revealing.

Does anyone have good information to share?  I missed about a third of the debate and hope that MSNBC or CNN do a repeat of the debate.  Sorry, just feeling frustrated and fed up with the nasty crap that the RNC sent in my mail today against Obama."

Thank God for you guys and the results.  Even FOX believes that Obama won and that he looked presidential!  I guess they are finally accepting the future.  I dread what Limbaugh and Hannity are going to rant and encourage during the next 20 days.  Pray for Obama's safety.

MaggieCat,  Hopemonger

Maggie, you might want to check your PBS schedule.  Several PBS stations repeat their programming overnight.


McCain said that troops should be allowed to teach without having to get a certificate.

Obama/Biden 2008

So I didn't hear that incorrectly!  What kind of hairbrained idea is that?  Pandering again.  I'm sure the troops would rather have their very real issues addressed.
Hi Suzi!  Did you get my emails?  =)  How are you doing lately?

Yeah, that dude is f-ing crackerjacks!

Where does he pull this sh*t from?

Honestly, who advises him?

The ideas are insane!


I almost fell off the bed when I heard him say that.  So to improve our already underachieving schools, you hire "teachers" who are soldiers, without teaching certificates???  WTF???  No disrespect to our soldiers, but what do they know about teaching our children? 
Yeah, that one killed me too.  I can't even see how that makes sense anywhere, anyplace or anytime! 

Probably a good idea to study your opponent's stance when you plan to attack him on it in front of millions of potential viewers. McCain's Deer In The Headlight!

Obama/Biden 2008


 Thanks for this.  You are wonderful.  God love you.


This was one of my favorite moments of the night! SNL should have some fun with this one. Thanks for posting.

My other favorite moment is when he settled the issue of this 'association' with Bill Ayers -- not what he said about it but what he after it when he talks about who he would associate with if he becomes president. It was  a great answer. Somebody, post video of this please.

LMAO! "Zero???" That was funny, I didnt catch that while watching the debate so thanks for posting it.
ROTFLOL... That was awesome. I watched the debate online and it didn't have the split screen, but I did hear McCain's "zero?!" comment. Watching his facial reaction was priceless! Almost like "ohhh, interesting, I could vote for this guy" :-)
I watched it on CNN last night, but I completely missed McCain's reaction.  I wonder how many times McCain blinked during that exchange.  PRICELESS!!!

Hey text to FOX News who you thought won the debate.

A for McCain

B for Obama

C for Other

Send to 36288

Happy Texting


You know who won the debate? I did. By not watching the whole thing. 

The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, & wiser people so full of doubts.
-- Bertrand Russel

Dang!  They tricked me again!  Someday I'll be smart like TS.


The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, & wiser people so full of doubts.
-- Bertrand Russel

I agree Misty, that was a real attention-grabber.  I also thought when Obama talked about why he didn't vote for the Columbian trade agreement - human rights issues (and he explained that he would support an agreement which considered those) while McCain just said something like "but it's billions of dollars" we got a very good glimpse into the priorities of these two men.

McCain Mocks Women's Health In Abortion Issue. Really? Not a legitimate concern?

Obama/Biden 2008

Looks at those lines drop!  Everytime he opens his mouth, the lines drop.

What infuriates me about McCain's attitude is that he scorns and disrespects women on so many levels and my isn't it easy for him to dismiss a woman's health in the case of a pregnancy, when he as a man will never have to be pregnant.  Is this why he doesn't think that birth control should be covered by health insurance, but let's make damn sure that viagra is covered, huh?


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