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By Barbara Gordon - Posted on 01 September 2008

Here's running commentary from an Alaskan.

He offers a view of lovely downtown Wasilla City, Alaska from which Palin cut her political teeth:

Mayor Palin's Dowtown Wasilla Alaska

 

Geeeee and I thought I was from a small town.... lol

I got to looking around at google images for Wasilla Alaska, here's another.

This is Wasilla's watering hole for the locals.

From Sarah Palin's email - "Officer Wooten was off-duty, drinking at the Mugshot Saloon in Wasilla when he pulled out his Trooper badge and demanded the bartender (Mr. Chris Brightbill) remove a patron whom Wooten disliked.

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Sarah Palin was City Council Member 1992 – 1996 and Mayor of Wasilla from 1996 – 2002

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That picture should be titled "Executive Leadership Experience - McCain/Palin 08!"

 I swear, that town hall looks like one of those combination video/liquor stores found throughout california. You sure that wasn't photo shopped?

That's their city hall . .  for real -  City of Wasilla website

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Dude, you're right.

Alaska State Capitol building

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Wohlforth, Charles (August 29, 2008): “I had written a Frommer's travel guidebook about Alaska (I live in Anchorage and was on the Municipal Assembly here at the time). In the book, I frankly described Wasilla as a place to skip, 'the worst kind of suburban sprawl of highway-fronting shopping malls and gravel lots.'” Wasilla boosters were furious and a local media debate erupted. A good many people came in on my side: Wasilla, with a complete lack of community planning, is truly Alaska's least attractive town. I went to speak to a luncheon at the area's visitor's bureau, and that's where I met Palin.

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A picture's worth a thousand words.

Now, let's compare (albeit it's not executive) where Obama cut his teeth in public service:

 

The South Side of Chicago 

AND

The U. S. Senate. 

I'm sure those pictures will spin in the media.....

Campbell Brown was asking a McCain aide to name at least one leadership decision of Palin that would qualify her....the aide spun it as sexist and never answered the question.

Yes it is obraxton.

On CNN James Carville said, "they tout her experience as mayor of this town in Alaska,” said Carville. “This is the picture of the City Hall. It looks like a bait shop in South Louisiana,” the Baton Rouge native said.

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I can say this with complete authority since I have lived in DEEP DEEP South Louisiana my entire life and am the daughter of a hunter/fisherman.... trust me when I tell you that there are bait shops around here that put that little building to shame!  LOL

I cant believe that in one fell swoop the republicans have alienated their base, and thrown out the Obama inexperience arguement. Republicans can overcome a scandal but they must first have faith in their candidate. Im not sure thats possible at this point and maybe thats why they lost 6 points in the last 2 days.

www.Realclearpolitics.com  for daily averages on all polls conducted. Obama's lead is the largest since june.

fail 

Great handle "Obamalican". Thanks for saying how we all feel.  

A reporter with The Times of London, who said he flew to Wasilla to check out Palin’s hometown, describes the area as unkempt and “defined by a series of out-of-town stores, a huge lumber yard, a ramshackle bar named the Mug-Shot Saloon with Harley Davidsons parked outside, and a lake, by the side of which is Palin’s house”... and the residents, including Palin, proudly call themselves Valley Trash. 

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"proudly call themselves Valley Trash. "

I saw Glen Beck describe himself as "white trash" yesterday on CNN when discussing her and actually in context, he was implying that she was and that he could relate to her because of that. I can't find a video link at the moment...

Here it is Ben. 

Glenn Beck: White trash on Sarah Palin

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I'm sittin' here with my mouth hangin' open... I CAN'T BELIEVE I just heard that!!! I don't know about other "white folks", but politically AND socially, I consider the term "white trash" to be offensive and degrading. It's in the same catagory as the "N" word and the "K" word.

This is desperate at best and apalling at worst. I was a Single Mom for several years and it was HARD. My daughter and I might have been considered "white trash" because we were poor and lived by very simple means. During those hard times I told my daughter to hold her head high and never forget that she was loved. Never, NEVER would I EVER call myself white trash - not even lightly.

Sorry, for the rant but, this one hit a button...

I know what you mean. That video hurt to watch. I have slipped and referred to my growing up life as "poor white trash" occasionally, more out of shame than anything else. Growing up, I heard that a lot, sometimes just whispers on the street and other times as taunts, but it still burns deep. We had each other, but little else. Nobody will ever make me and my family sit on the back pew at church EVER AGAIN. When I left home, I swore that nobody would ever call me that again, and to see people make a joke about it makes me livid. The Republican tactics of this election have me ready to change my voter registration permanently.

"I have slipped and referred to my growing up life as "poor white trash" occasionally, more out of shame than anything else. Growing up, I heard that a lot, sometimes just whispers on the street and other times as taunts, but it still burns deep. We had each other, but little else. Nobody will ever make me and my family sit on the back pew at church EVER AGAIN."

100 percent same here. I've learned to own the phrase and use it to my advantage sometimes, but I share your experiences to a good degree. Whatever other differences we may have, I know exactly what that is like. 

Ellen, I hope you don't mind, but check this out

Just kidding but everyone I knew referred to themselves as White Trash and it wasn't derogatory.  Even trust funders!  So I've never seen it as a derogatory thing, ever.

 

I find it hard to believe that anyone would call themselves valley trash "proudly," and I can't help but read an awful lot of Brit elitism into this depiction of rural America. This kind of stuff has got to let up or there will be a backlash against Obama from all of us conservative gun-totin' red-state small-town Americans.

Well, we all know what this really is. This is just their way of saying "Hey white people, vote for us because we're white too!" without actually coming out and saying that directly.

Hearing someone on CNN referring to themselves like that was surreal, and I had to rewind the tivo to make sure I heard it right when it was on. I just couldn't believe he went there.

Imagine putting that on your resume or your friends resume, and yet that's exactly what he did by those comments, put "white trash" on the resume of Palin. It's clear who the target market was.  

I should clarify, by "It's clear who the target market was", I wasn't just talking about the "white trash" comments, but Palin's nomination in general.

The Republican Party - Rocking the "we fear brown" vote in 08! 

Well, to be fair, I call myself "white trash" or "trailer trash" from time to time. And I admit that I can relate a lot easier to Palin than I can to Obama. But then, I'm not running for VP.

But I also think you're right that some of these arguments and reports will do nothing but serve to widen the divide between some rural and urban voters. I know that I've felt like making a knee-jerk comment a time or two.

Sure, there may be some rubes in rural America, but there are also some smart hardworking folks. 

The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, & wiser people so full of doubts.
-- Bertrand Russel

Looks like it true that the residents call themselves "valley trash". Maybe they are just being funny. Go figure!

Sarah Palin

 

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Sometimes you find pride in the derogatory names that others give you. 

The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, & wiser people so full of doubts.
-- Bertrand Russel

In this case you might be right. Ted Stevens son Ben Stevens attached the name to the town, and the residents ran with it as a joke. This is my opinion from the articles that I have read.

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Sarah Palin, who portrays herself as a fiscal conservative "hockey mom", left Wasilla $20 million in debt. [Anchorage Daily News 10/23/06; the Politico, 8/29]

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This does not surprise me because as the Republican's have proven repeatedly, much to America's detriment, there is nothing fiscally conservative or responsible for that matter in their policies.

Debt is the new Republican way.

Wall Street Journal: The biggest project that Sarah Palin undertook as mayor of this small town was an indoor sports complex, where locals played hockey, soccer, and basketball, especially during the long, dark Alaskan winters.

The only catch was that the city began building roads and installing utilities for the project before it had unchallenged title to the land. The misstep led to years of litigation and at least $1.3 million in extra costs for a small municipality with a small budget. What was to be Ms. Palin's legacy has turned into a financial mess that continues to plague Wasilla.

Litigation resulting from the dispute over Ms. Palin's sports-complex project is still in the courts, with the land's former owner seeking hundreds of thousands of additional dollars from the city. - Link

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All this is why she has 80% Alaska approval,eh....That picture above of the south side of Chicago is something to behold, that is if you think a rundown dump is something good to look at, although there were ones above that did have pictures worth looking at. Glenn Beck, Ted Nugent, Rush Limbaugh, Dennis Miller, etc,  know humor, something liberals can't figure out.

For someone with Truth in their name you never seem to say any.

Those approval ratings are from when she first took office and have steadily declined since.

I see no purpose or advantage in trashing small towns (which is not the same as faulting Palin for limited experience), including Palin's. If the point of this website is to encourage people to support Obama -- especially Republicans and independents, who outnumber democrats in most American small towns -- trashing small towns doubles down on Obama's harmful "bitter and clinging to religion" gaff. I have lived for fifteen years in a small town and my wife has never lived anywhere else. Small town citizens are extremely proud of their communities -- and if they choose to ironically call themselves "trash," fine, but that is NOT a welcome call for outsiders to join in.

As mayor, Palin ran up a huge civic debt and was a vicious cronyist. She managed 50 employees and a 6 million dollar budget -- the size of a small to medium size middle school. Her failed effort to censor town library books and pressure the librarian is outright sickening. One can criticize all of this and more about Palin without re-enforcing the already widespread perception -- fairly or unfairly -- that Obama and his followers have no respect for regard for small town Americans.

Amen, TomG. I sometimes find it difficult not to "knee-jerk" when people attack Palin for her small town cred.

I think that there are ways to highlight her views and record and experience without disparaging either Alaska or rural America. 

The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, & wiser people so full of doubts.
-- Bertrand Russel

And the McCain followers don't have respect for community organizers, which small towns rely on to be heard in their central government of the state. Palin has a big mouth.

A reply to Sarah Palin from Community Organizers - The Nation's Backbone

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Until Obama's candidacy, I'd never really heard much of or about "community organizers". 

The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, & wiser people so full of doubts.
-- Bertrand Russel

Thats right jaygade as rural america is what runs this country, to the disbelief of many.

No, rural America is important and shouldn't be discounted. They don't "run" this country and it would be just as big a mistake to discount the urban folks as it would be to dismiss the rural folks.

The US government (not just the president!) needs to be able to address the needs and concerns of both without alienating either. That's a fine line to walk, Johnny Cash.

The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, & wiser people so full of doubts.
-- Bertrand Russel

I agree that a president needs to address both city and country, but you know how would urban america survive without rural america, it wouldn't, how would rural america survive without urban america.....answer, just fine, we know where things come from, because I'm from the country and I like that way, where everybody knows everybody........................

At ease, Keith Urban. 

(Yes, I know he's not who did the song, I listen to country). 

The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, & wiser people so full of doubts.
-- Bertrand Russel

Actually, both need each other.

Urban America would have a more difficult time with being able to sustain their food supplies, but rural America needs the financial institutions found in most urban areas - meaning that most small town banks are owned by the larger banks that are headquartered in larger cities.

Also, most major sources of energy come from large cities... not to mention imported and manufactured goods... so, I'm thinkin' that it might be hard to farm food and drive your trucks...or drive your fishing and tourist boats, as is the case in the small town I grew up in.

BTW: "The" I grew up in a rural farm/fishing town in Ohio. We owned guns and raised our own livestock and life was good... and the town admistration was a crooked and as above the law as they could be. It's all the same, no matter where you live - just that in the city (I now live in Chicago and have for the last 17 years) it's on a much bigger scale.

And that even though that picture of the South Side of Chicago disgusts you, there are families that live there that take just as much pride in their communities and they love their family and county too... just like you. That picture above has TWICE the number of people living in it than the ENTIRE STATE of Alaska. ...Just in case you were thinking Obama's too inexperienced, which is why the pictures were posted in the first place.

Most major sources of energy come from large cities? LIKE WHAT. I live nowhere near a city and have several huge power plants nearby that send energy to the city. As in coal, hydro, even wind.  Obama managed that place on the picture, wow! Impressed, he organized it I'm sure, he said , crappy looking building here, worser one there, dead tree here, lets do alittle grafiti and damn, we are styling! As Palin is from the most beautiful state in America. Although I do feel bad for the ones that live there, hope they can manage to find a better future.

thats right this site gets me fired up, I know whom depends on whom, country folks our self dependent, urban folks have no choice but not to be, and they think they are entitled to what they want. Gotta go as I have to get up at 4:30 a.m to go to work, physical labor type work, stone mason. I'm sure that is funny to some, they drive past a building and to them its a building, I drive past a building and you appreciate the time and work that goes into it. Then I'll come home and gather some firewood. Pick some supper out of the garden, take a peaceful walk in the woods, plain enjoyable this country life.
Before I go ValleyTrash in an online classified website for the Matsu Valley in Alaska.

Then why do you go and trash up this forum? You are not the first and only person that ever laid brick and stone. I also broke in as a young lad mixing plaster in a box trying to keep up with two fast mud slinging drunk plasterers.

What does hard labor have to do in picking someone that will turn our country around from the mess Bush made? Try looking where the good judgement is and you will find Obama.

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